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To: HG who wrote (89047)12/30/1999
From: Victor Lazlo  Respond to of 164687
 
thanks Happy!
Interesting to say the least.

I'm looking to get into CVCI tomorrow. Semi OEM. Recent IPO, mkt cap about 1X sales. Still losing $$, but closing the gap. Barriers to entry are big time.

Victor



To: HG who wrote (89047)12/30/1999 12:06:00 AM
From: Glenn D. Rudolph  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 164687
 
December 29, 1999

Toy Retailers Find Investors
Unforgiving on Blunders

By JASON ANDERS
THE WALL STREET JOURNAL INTERACTIVE EDITION

Investors generally are forgiving when it comes to Internet companies. Quirky
business models, bloated advertising budgets and rivers of red ink aren't
enough to deter them.

But when Barbie doesn't arrive in time for
Christmas, watch out.

Message-board participants have been
slamming online toy retailers following a
holiday season plagued by customer-service
headaches and orders that arrived late -- or not at all.

"I never short stocks, but for eToys I made an exception," says Peg Coleman,
a Clive, Iowa, consultant who soured on the toy retailer after running into
problems on an order for her four-year-old grandson. (Short sellers profit by
betting a stock's price will fall.)

Ms. Coleman placed her order the day after Thanksgiving, but some items
didn't arrive until 3 p.m. on Christmas Eve -- long after she had repurchased
the late gifts at a local store. What's more, she says she's still waiting on an
art-supplies kit that hasn't shown up. "I figured if it happened to me, it had to
be happening to a lot of people."

Message boards have been clogged with stories like Ms. Coleman's, and
analysts say the companies are paying for their customer-service blunders on
the stock market.

eToys shares, already down 51% for the month,
came under additional selling pressure this week
after Lauren Levitan, an analyst with
BancBoston Robertson Stephens, downgraded
the stock to "long-term attractive" from "buy"
amid concerns that it could cost the company
dearly to fix its order problems and win back
customers.

Toys "R" Us shares have slumped in December, a month in which it abruptly
announced that many holiday orders placed on its Web site likely wouldn't
arrive by Christmas. (Some on the message boards seemed appeased by the
company's offer of a $100 gift certificate, but many others say they'll take
their business elsewhere.)

"You just don't mess with Christmas," says Ms. Levitan. "In the past, online
retailers have benefited from all the positive buzz their customers have given
them. But now this cadre of unhappy customers can do some damage to their
brands."

Indeed, some would-be online investors say they'll stay away from the toy
stocks after reading about all the problems customers have been having. "I
definitely wouldn't invest in eToys. I've just heard too many stories," says
David Gladstein, who works as an operations manager for an equipment
finance company. Mr. Gladstein soured on eToys after a co-worker told him
about an order for Christmas presents that still hasn't arrived. After Mr.
Gladstein relayed the story on a Silicon Investor (www.siliconinvestor.com)
message board dedicated to eToys, others began posting similar stories.

"In the context of the significant volume we did,
we feel we did a pretty darn good job," says
Toby Lenk, chief executive of eToys. "We're
seeing a tendency of people to be overly
anecdotal," he says of the publicity surrounding the customer complaints. Mr.
Lenk says that of the one million orders handled by eToys during the holiday
season, more than 90% of customers were satisfied.

As for Ms. Coleman's experience, an eToys spokesman says she was given a
credit for about half of her $42.67 order on Dec. 21 during a review of
orders that were delayed for Christmas. An eToys representative contacted
Ms. Coleman Tuesday evening and refunded the balance of the order, and
apologized for the problems.

For its part, a spokeswoman for Toys "R" Us says its online woes were due to
"unanticipated success."

"We tried to be up front with customers about the delays. We will continue to
do everything we can to keep customers happy," says Leann Lavin, a
spokeswoman for the Paramus, N.J., retailer.

The company is already looking at ways to make next Christmas run more
smoothly, including giving customers the option of placing orders online and
picking up merchandise at one of its more than 700 retail stores.


Ms. Levitan, the Robertson Stephens analyst, says investors can be quick to
take out frustrations on a stock like eToys, since many of them have probably
shopped at the store, or know someone who has. The Internet, and in
particular stock-chat message boards, make it even easier for investors to
share horror stories.

"In many ways, all the typical hassles have just been transferred online.
Instead of standing in a store pulling your hair out, you're doing it in front of
your computer," says Ms. Levitan. "But there is a silver lining to this cloud,
and that is that demand has been phenomenal. We're seeing these problems
because so many people wanted to buy toys online."

Ms. Levitan says despite the problems, she doesn't think eToys will have any
trouble exceeding the $78.5 million in sales she predicts for the quarter.

Indeed, consumers went online for shopping in droves this year.
Market-research firm Forrester Research predicts that about $4 billion will be
spent online between Thanksgiving and the end of the year, and some analysts
say that estimate should be easily surpassed.

What's more, analysts say given all the publicity their stumbles are receiving
this year, online toy retailers are likely to spend the coming months making
sure Christmas 2000 runs much more smoothly.

"I think these problems will be remedied in time for the next holiday season,"
says Liz Leonard, a senior analyst with Lincoln, Mass., research firm Gomez
Advisors. "This wasn't that catastrophic. Overall, I think the value inherent to
buying toys online, particularly on price, far outweigh the weaknesses we
experienced this year."