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To: Paul Engel who wrote (84436)12/30/1999 8:56:00 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
Re: "Doesn't the Sony Playstation II EMOTION CPU chip occupy MORE THAN TWICE the real estate of a Coppermine?"

I believe the quoted sizes for the CPU (240mm2) and the
graphics synthesizer (279mm2) are in .25um technology. Plus, the graphics chip is about 1/2 embedded DRAM. I would have to believe these chips will ultimately be built in .18um groundrules so it's not as bad as you may think.

THE WATSONYOUTH



To: Paul Engel who wrote (84436)12/30/1999 10:24:00 PM
From: Scumbria  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573092
 
Paul,

Doesn't the Sony Playstation II EMOTION CPU chip occupy MORE THAN TWICE the real estate of a Coppermine ?

It also has more compute power than a Coppermine.

In my original note I was referring to very low cost embedded cores which occupy about 10% of the silicon area, but perform more than 50% as fast as top of the line desktop processors.

Scumbria



To: Paul Engel who wrote (84436)12/31/1999 12:04:00 PM
From: Charles R  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573092
 
<Doesn't the Sony Playstation II EMOTION CPU chip occupy MORE THAN TWICE the real estate of a Coppermine ?>

Sony is partnering to build a new 0.18u FAB to fix that problem. By next Christmas, which is when PSIIs should achieve volume, the odds are they will be shipping everything from this new fab.