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To: Berry Picker who wrote (3980)	1/3/2000 3:17:00 AM
From: monu	Respond to of 4775

Brian thanks for the response. Some of it makes a lot of sense, especially the different authorities that Daniel and Ezekiel were called to. One thing confuses me and that is the following you said,"God first put the Flesh back on the bones but they had no "Breath" ( Spirit ) That happened in 536 BC and 1948 AD. The rebuilding of the Temple 536 BC and the return of Israel as a Nation 1948 AD." A while back a Jewish guy gave me some articles showing how the establishment of Israel in 1948 was anything but spiritual. In fact some of these clippings had well known signatures such as Einstein on them in protest to the government that was being formed and how it all was occuring. Now without you or anyone else thinking I'm anti-semetic or whatever, I found (back then) those clipping quite interesting and the fact that these were petitions at the time of occurence from well known Jews added to the mystery. With that said, where do you get this as a two-fold prophecy, the second part being fulfilled in 1948. Not only that, you use the word "spirit" as if God is breathing life into that nation. This may be true, but considering that pornography is rampant and every other man-made thing is used to secure this nation (without Divine Intervention) where do we get the idea of anything Supernatural as happening at this time? Also where does all this relate to the "animal sacrifices"? Oh, and Good Night. I will not be around for any immediate reply.

To: Berry Picker who wrote (3980)	1/3/2000 4:11:00 AM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 4775

<<<Also if you study what God did when He destroyed the Temple and Jerusalem even more devastatingly in 70 AD .. GOD then also turned and Judged Rome afterward ( Rome Burned ) However Wicked Rome was "resurrected" in the Unholy Roman Church.>>> I see things just a little bit differently. Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD and utterly destroyed in around 130 AD but look at the contrast, when Rome burned it didn't last all that long, but famine, pestilence, and war had besieged Jerusalem for months (I'm basing this off of Josephus). Now when Rome burned it was the Christians who suffered more than anyone else, but I really don't see what satisfaction the Jews would have had in seeing Rome temporarily plagued when they compared it to the catastrophy they just suffered. So in this case I don't see this as a judgement of God against Rome. In fact I'm convinced that it was God who caused Rome to invade Jerusalem in the first place. After all hadn't he already promised them would do it if they transgressed against him since the time of Moses and Joshua? Concerning the dry bones in Ezekial. I believe those dry bones may actually represent the current people living in Israel now. Consider. When the nation was reformed should any truthfully expect these people should be God fearing Jews? Why should they be after such a long exile? In the days of Nehemiah and Ezra what kind of Jewish exiles returned from Babylonia? Honest God fearing Jews? No, worldly people who didn't know God hardly at all. They had forgotten the precepts of God altogether. Why do you think Ezra was so distressed, why did he cry out to God, who had just allowed the people to return? EZRA 6 and prayed: "O my God, I am too ashamed and disgraced to lift up my face to you, my God, because our sins are higher than our heads and our guilt has reached to the heavens. From the days of our forefathers until now, our guilt has been great. Because of our sins, we and our kings and our priests have been subjected to the sword and captivity, to pillage and humiliation at the hand of foreign kings, as it is today. "But now, for a brief moment, the LORD our God has been gracious in leaving us a remnant and giving us a firm place in his sanctuary, and so our God gives light to our eyes and a little relief in our bondage. Though we are slaves, our God has not deserted us in our bondage. He has shown us kindness in the sight of the kings of Persia: He has granted us new life to rebuild the house of our God and repair its ruins, and he has given us a wall of protection in Judah and Jerusalem. "But now, O our God, what can we say after this? For we have disregarded the commands Ezra was a priest who interceded for the people. Is it impossible for Jesus to come back as a high priest over Jerusalem? Can it be possible that the Spirit being talked about in Ezekial is the Holy Spirit? Can it be possible that Jerusalem will face such a revival that dwarfs all the revivals in the past? I am and always have been under a strong opinion that God is not finished with Israel and their best days lie ahead. But I also believe that the terrors they are going to be facing in the near future will be astounding. Chris