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To: Process Boy who wrote (84898)	1/4/2000 9:21:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572159

PB, The initial celeron was a lame duck, the later celeron with full speed cache bit both sides as it was demonstrable better than the P-II....showing a lack of planning, a 32k cache would have allowed it to kill the K-6 and not be a threat to the P-II. And now we have more moves with bad execution and planning. The rambus and 820 debacles, the dell freezups, the lack of parts at 750/800 look like a twig up a grasshoppers ass effect on Intel. They leapt into action at high speed, when prodded, tumbling over and over and landing badly. Bill

To: Process Boy who wrote (84898)	1/4/2000 9:33:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572159

PB, <I don't think too many folks were predicting that the PIII would be at 800 by the end of 99.> And it is not. Not at 800, not even at 733. The typical ETA for those parts and systems is 01/00 or 02/00, even at Dell, if you are paying attention to the reality. Judging from available inventory levels and systems sold in retail, the peak bin frequency for P-III does not exceed 600MHz, and the flood of "mobile" P-III at 500 seems to be the same slow parts but re-qualified to operate at lower core voltage. <Forgive me if I take a little satisfaction in see those predictions being blown out of the water.> Out of water? No problem, we forgive you for your mental masturbation <sorry for the parallel>.

To: Process Boy who wrote (84898)	1/4/2000 11:42:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572159

PB - RE: "I don't think too many folks were predicting that the PIII would be at 800 by the end of 99." No one also predicted that Intel would SIGNIFICANTLY lower the standards of their launches. Pricewatch doesn't have any listing for Intel 750 or 800MHz processors. It has been over two weeks since their launch. The Chip Merchant STILL doesn't have the PIII 733 listed for sale. This processor has been "out" for over two months. store.yahoo.com Your team should be congratulated for the high MHz it is able to attain. But it is too bad Intel is tarnishing its previous image of having products available in Intel volumes at launch.

To: Process Boy who wrote (84898)	1/4/2000 12:07:00 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 1572159

PB, <I don't think too many folks were predicting that the PIII would be at 800 by the end of 99. > And it is not. Saying that Intel got to 733 in Q4 would be pretty generous. If Intel ends up shipping only 1.5Mu as some analysts are predicting, by applying Intel's own pre-Athlon standards, one could argue that Intel did not ship anything more than 600MHz for Q4. Chuck