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To: mowa who wrote (8415)1/5/2000 10:46:00 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Respond to of 9798
 
Well Mo, when I went to linuxplanet, I followed a couple of path's. Now when I followed Linux Distributions there was no Redhat 6.1. Now I read some of the redhat review and Gee Redhat got 24 out of 25 stars in the ratings, yet the review railed on about gnome(I don't use it anyway) and about the open source rpm.(I use it at the command line). But redhat got 24 out of 25 stars. Corel got 24 out of 25 stars.

Redhat has 20% better value but corl has 20% better usability. What the hell does that mean????

Well for 4 bucks any can try both and decide for oneself.

These reviews are personal opinions and have little in the way of quantification. So to me, it's smoke and mirrors of verbal babble speak. The reviewer talks about rpm

"In and of itself, RPM is good technology, but it's failed to catch on beyond the Red Hat universe."
rufus.w3.org shows the extent of distributions supported by rpm. Suse and slackware have converter's to Rpm. So when I read I pass the ideas of the author by my experience and look for holes. I belive that redhat's RPM was and is a key simplification factor that greatly advanced the entire Linux cause.

There are no Debian distribuion RPM's Gee... Debian folks are religiously against RPM and other non debian heresy. Me, I'm a religous KISS guy, which is to say I have no Linux religion.
Debian folks do not take time to support rpm. Debian is a small percentage of Linux users. So it seems to me that debian users get saddled with having to use a munh more difficult older unix install technology that requires more skill to use. For Joe User, THIS IS A LONG TERM SYSTEMIC BARRIER TO USABILITY BY APPLICATION DENIAL.

Makes sence to me. Corel uses debian to hide from users other opensource applications that are as good as or better than what they charge money for. Corl sells and the consumer gets screwed.

24 out of 25 stars Redhat. What the hell does that mean?
But who really cares as each distribution is worth 25 cents.
OK 2 bucks.

Fact, Joe User will succeed or fail with Linux installation because of hardware compatibility and mostly in getting the xserver setup with the particular video card. Both products use Xfree86.

Gui and desktops are to me puff concerns about look and feel and everyone seems to have an expert opinion on what color the paint should be. Who cares??

Tom Watson tosiwmee



To: mowa who wrote (8415)1/5/2000 11:52:00 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9798
 
Oh Mo... on attitude... Hey you posted at 4 in the morning. Get a life. I know of what I speak. Look at the time of my post. Mo, you are no dummy and my I believe.... was not ment to refer to you but to point out that many reviews deal in opionion and not fact and most who read have no factual basis to put a review in context.

So as to the Linux Planet reviews. What do I decide? To me usability is the true value so what is the value of which they speak. But useability of a computer is in running applications. Everything else is support of that end. RPM is a big deal in access to Applications.

As I said before... the redhat package manager is 3 to 4 times simpler and far more reliable in installing packages than other unix package install methods.

Applications are useability. The ease of use of the command or mouse clicks to launch don't matter if you don't have the application. One of the keys to useability of Linux is the simplicty and flexibility of the command line and layered gui attempts to obscure it may actually get in the way of useability. To start app doda, open Xterm by clicking on xterm button and type doda. Now dat is complicated.

So in the conflicts of what the reviewer said, what is debunk in the smoke and mirrors of verbal babble speak.

Mo, I invite you and all to read my watman.com and debunk it. Comments are welcome and negative is good as it forces me to think.

Tom Watson tosiwmee.