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To: ptanner who wrote (86977)	1/13/2000 7:14:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575191

ptanner, A favourite ploy is to give you a term quote(good for 30-60 days) and hope you wait a while and they buy. They keep the price drop as extra bucks, unless you specifically tailor your quote. The besy buy is to get a screwdriver shop box with a specified mobo, power supply and CPU from a local SD shop. Go to Toms hardware and read about mobos and power supplies. Use and AMD/Intel approved one. There are some made in the USA mobos with SCSI fast/wide built in. Some Asus ones and others too. It depends on where you are. Some areas have more of this resource than others. Approx where are you? Bill

To: ptanner who wrote (86977)	1/13/2000 8:39:00 PM
From: Mani1	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575191

PT, I have been using an Athlon 650 for CAD/FEA for 4 months or so. For CAD I use SolidWorks and for FEA I use COSMOS. It is extremely stable and fast. Recently My co-worker got a Coppermine 667 from Micron. We run thermal FEA (HStar module) on the exact same model on both computer and mine did in about 20 minutes less. (2:10 hours Vs. 1:50). There is no doubt that for FEA Athlon is substantially faster. For CAD, I think they should be about the same and I think either one is more than fast enough. I highly recommend the Athlon for your CAD/FEA applications. Mani

To: ptanner who wrote (86977)	1/14/2000 2:37:00 AM
From: Goutam	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575191

PT, Since I hadn't heard of Pionex until it was noted on this thread, this makes me wonder about who is selling corporate computer systems I haven't heard of Pionex either, until they signed up with AMD. From their announcement, I feel that they are a niche player targeting Mechanical Eng CAD/CAM workstation segment. If true, they might be advertising their wares in journals and magazines specific to these fields. IMHO, the majority of corporate systems purchased based on one's IT or IS department guidelines are usually from one of the top tier box makers. Corporate systems for engineering applications are usually picked by engineering personnel. This is where niche players, and local SD shops get the majority of their business from. Goutama