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To: Paul Engel who wrote (87365)	1/15/2000 3:11:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572259

Paul - <Do you think Intel's equipment vendors can deliver enough 0,18 micron pieces of equipment SIMULTANEOUSLY to FIVE individual fabs? Do you think Intel can install new sets of equipment (maybe 30% of each line) simultaneously ineach fab without screwing up EXISTING 0,25 micron production ? How long do you think it takes to generate 45 reticle sets - 0.18 micron - and qualify EACH reticle set in production for yields? Intel has a LOT MORE PRODUCTS being converted than just CPUs. Do you think Intel has FIVE SEPARATE MASK/Reticle shops to generate all 45 reticle sets fabs simultaneously ? And then quallify EACH Fab's 0.18 micron products through Intel's reliability program ? Do you think Intel has FIVE SEPARATE Reliability groups to qualify all fabs simultanelously ? And what do the 5 fabs do after 0.18 micron conversion is completed and the 0.25 micron lines are halted - and the reliability groups begin their 1000/1500 hours of testing (6 - 9 weeks) - sit around IDLE waiting for the readouts?> Thank you. PB

To: Paul Engel who wrote (87365)	1/15/2000 4:41:00 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572259

Do you think Intel's equipment vendors can deliver enough 0,18 micron pieces of equipment SIMULTANEOUSLY to FIVE individual fabs? Hey, I simply asked a question.....I don't do fab conversions for a living. Why so defensive? ted

To: Paul Engel who wrote (87365)	1/15/2000 2:06:00 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572259

Paul, Good points. Now imagine the logistical nightmare Intel will have taking their fabs to 0.13u copper, and compare that to what AMD will have to do to take fab 30 to 0.13u copper. I like how AMD is positioned. In fact, in going to 0.13u copper, AMD is almost ideally positioned. Pravin. (Yes, I know that AMD has not delivered any 0.18u copper product, yet, and I am talking up their glorious 0.13u copper process. I can hear you now. Hopefully, I have saved you the post.)