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To: AugustWest who wrote (13156)1/18/2000 8:16:00 AM
From: AugustWest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20297
 
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Start-Up Touts Mobile Cash Transfer System
By Todd Spangler, Inter@ctive Week
November 15, 1999 4:46 PM ET

How would you send me $20 over the Web? Internet start-up Confinity this week is launching a digital cash system that it said addresses the shortcomings of other Web-based payment schemes.

The system works like this: A user of Confinity's PayPal service enters a cash transfer to anyone with an e-mail address. The money comes off the sender's credit card - billed as a merchant transaction, not a cash advance - and is credited to the recipient's newly created PayPal account. To retrieve the cash, recipients must sign up with PayPal; they then ask Confinity to either mail them a check or put the amount on a credit card.

"Most online payment companies have focused on merchants - but credit cards are already a pretty good way for merchants to accept payments over the Internet," said Peter Thiel, Confinity's chief executive. "We think there is a market for making person-to-person payments in a very convenient way."

Confinity also has developed software for Palm handheld organizers that lets a person wirelessly beam money from one Palm to another. The accounts are reconciled later when the Palms synch up with PayPal's servers. In addition, the company hopes to extend the PayPal system to Wireless Access Protocol mobile phones next year.

PayPal is free to use. So what's in it for Confinity? The company makes money from the "float" - the interest that accrues on the cash in people's accounts. Thiel estimates that Confinity, which puts the money in its users' accounts in a Merrill Lynch & Co. escrow account, could reap 1.25 percent interest or more on the money people leave in PayPal accounts.

Though it's first out of the gate, the PayPal service will see competition. Western Union, the real-world leader in money transfers, plans to launch a service next year that will enable individuals to send funds over the Internet, according to a spokesman.

Unlike other Net payment mechanisms, PayPal requires no proprietary software. It works with existing e-mail and Web clients. It also doesn't make PayPal users preload money into their accounts; your credit card is charged only when you zap cash to someone.

"I think it's rather innovative. It's a simple, straightforward idea," said Avivah Litan, research director of payment systems at GartnerGroup. "We really haven't seen any consumer-to-consumer payment schemes break out."

Confinity, of course, has yet to prove its business model will work.

Litan said the main issue for Confinity will be winning customer trust, which the company might address by cobranding the service with a financial institution.

Confinity, based in Palo Alto, Calif., has received $5 million in backing from Deutsche Bank, Nokia Wireless Ventures and individual investors, including CyberCash founder Bill Melton and former executives at DigiCash and Hewlett-Packard.



To: AugustWest who wrote (13156)1/18/2000 8:21:00 AM
From: AugustWest  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20297
 
perhaps more suited for the cych thread, but a little more

November 15, 1999

Paypal Electronic Plan May Be On the Money in Years to Come

By ALMAR LATOUR

Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

Your mobile phone could soon replace your wallet.

Thanks to a new Web-based payment service called Paypal, consumers can soon beam money via electronic-mail, mobile phones or Web-enabled pocket organizers. Unlike current online-payment systems that require users to know bank-account numbers of payment recipients, Paypal users only need an e-mail address or a phone number to beam a payment.

For consumers, the new service means they can pay money instantly, whether it's at an auction, a coffee shop or to a child in college simply by punching in an e-mail address or dialing a mobile-phone number. Similarly, merchants will be able to receive money at all times without having to be linked to a credit-card service.

More Services

Mobile phones are increasingly becoming more than just voice-communication devices, as operators and other companies are offering a growing number of wireless services. Spurred by the development of Wireless Application Protocol -- a wireless communication technology standard that allows mobile phones to access the Internet and other wireless technologies -- banks in high-tech Scandinavia are already offering customers the ability to check account balances and stock quotes on their mobile phones. Meanwhile, Nordic insurers allow clients to sign up for travel insurance via their mobile phones, and soon, interactive city maps will be available for wireless devices there.

The next generation of mobile devices from Sweden's Telefon AB L.M. Ericsson and Nokia Corp. will feature Web-equipped electronic organizers and ever-larger screens; within three years, wireless video conferencing will hit the market and may be widespread in technologically advanced Scandinavia in less than five years. Nokia already features futuristic mobile devices with full-color screens and minicameras during corporate presentations. Both equipment makers and service providers hope that mobile commerce, or m-commerce, will take off. "Mobile phones provide a direct channel from a merchant to a consumer," says Marko Orenius, spokesman for Finnish operator Sonera Corp., a pioneer in WAP services and the country's fourth-largest billing center. "You no longer have to wait for a consumer to switch on his PC in order to reach him," he says.

Some analysts aren't as upbeat about the potential of m-commerce because mobile phones are controlled by consumers and don't allow for advertising the way the PCs do. "No matter how big the phone screens get, you'll never see a banner ad the way you do on your PC," says Evan Neufeld, an analyst with Jupiter in London, who adds, "Joe Blow is many moons away from buying products over his phone."

Drawing Interest

Paypal's developer, Nokia-funded Silicon Valley startup Confinity Inc., is aiming to be at the heart of both e-commerce and m-commerce. Confinity says Paypal users may at first be hesitant to use the system for more than small payments, but its use could grow rapidly if it proves successful initially. It says that a year ago, online share traders cautiously traded small parts of their portfolio over the Web, but today, many investors have their entire portfolio in online accounts.

Confinity's founders are betting they can make money with Paypal by drawing interest over money payments that haven't yet been claimed. While merchants usually cash in on payments and checks as soon as possible, many individual consumers aren't as quick. "We are counting on a certain stickiness of the money," says Peter Thiel, Confinity's chief executive officer, who adds, "People don't pick up money until they need it."

Whether Paypal will become a hit remains a question. The Internet is littered with online-payment systems that didn't appeal to consumers. Credit cards and debit cards remain the preferred way of payment for online consumers. Security of transactions remains a big issue for consumers, particularly in Europe, where people are reluctant to give out their credit-card number to begin with. "Security is a big challenge," says Mr. Neufeld, adding, "You can have a great product but you have to convince people that it's secure. People first have to trust you."

Confinity claims its payment system is more secure than checks and other paper-based payment methods, which can be forged or stolen. Security of the e-mail payments is hinging on the workings of a central server, through which all Paypal payment transactions are made. Behind Paypal is a server that processes payment transactions and connects to the digital infrastructure of financial institutions around the world. The server is secured by cutting-edge cryptography developed at Stanford University and other than credit-card payments, all security is concentrated at one point. Moreover, Paypal is relying on common-sense security. "The system is transparent," says Mr. Thiel, adding, "Every user is registered by name and each transaction is traceable."

One potential snag: The underlying technology of the system needs to be able to handle a massive number of transactions, which need to be routed and rerouted at the click of a button. "There are significant scalability questions," says Mr. Thiel, adding, "But the server is equipped for hundreds of thousands of simultaneous transactions and we don't expect any problems. People can try it first with small amounts of money and see that it will work."

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To: AugustWest who wrote (13156)1/19/2000 9:17:00 AM
From: tktom  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20297
 
Yeah, CKFR won't have a lock on this. I'm thinking their Genesis investment will leapfrog the competition. One thing for sure, I'll be on the edge of my seat for this month's earnings.. This should be the last iffy quarter.