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To: JustLearning who wrote (1805)1/27/2000 5:46:00 PM
From: RocketMan  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 8096
 
Many of us on this thread are just learning, and sharing thoughts. As far as my thoughts on buying 120 vs 200 qcom calls, the advantage of the 120 is that it has more leverage. An upward movement in the stock at the 120 level will appreciate the 120 leap much more, proportionately, than it will the 120 leap. The disadvantage is that it is more expensive. The alternative is to buy more 200's, but that is rislier because you are ATM, so there is more of a chance that the stock will not get that high and the leap will expire worthless. This is the theory according to Roth, he discusses it on page 47. Where I disagree, however, is that I don't think the volatility or upward potential of a company like qcom is fully priced in the leap call. Obviously, this is a matter of opinion and I am betting against the call seller, one will be right and one wrong. However, for a stock that has already touched 200, even if momentarily, and that is growing its earnings at least at 50% per year, with the potential of much more than that with HDR, I think 200 sometime this year is a slam dunk, with another year to go on the 2002 leaps. So buying that far OTM is not at risky, IMHO, as Roth would have you think, at least on a qcom. That having been said, I don't think I would buy 200s right now, I would buy more like 130s or 140s because their premium has probably degraded more than it should for this (IMO) oversold condition.

Again, these are my thoughts, and I re-emphasize that like you I am just learning.

p.s. excuse the typos. I am trying new technology, and this wireless keyboard I am using is not very user friendly.



To: JustLearning who wrote (1805)1/27/2000 6:17:00 PM
From: edamo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8096
 
just learning...otm leaps

most people choose otm because they are cheap, and afford much leverage......but they have a high risk attached as they are highly speculative and offer minimum flexibility.

believe roth book will point out the strategy of itm, ditm leaps used as a stock replacement, in fact better to do this, then borrow on margin to go long the common. the ditm is actually cheaper then the otm and dotm, as it has intrinsic value and is marked closer to the market...

look at a qcom options chain, notice as you add the premium to the strike, how close the ditm comes to the current market. buy a 200, and you have to move 80 points plus the strike to break even. the stellar past performance of qcom can't be guaranteed as currently the momentum is broken. buy a ditm and should the stock soften or trade sideways for a while, you can write covered calls against them and receive decent premiums...not really worth it if you are otm or dotm...

you get what you pay for...intrinsic value is costly, but you are immediately in the game...otm, dotm may keep you on the sidelines as time erodes your position

good luck...ed a.



To: JustLearning who wrote (1805)1/27/2000 7:02:00 PM
From: RR  Respond to of 8096
 
Hi JustLearning:

I agree with Edamo's comments regarding itm vs. otm.
I've found better success with itm or ditm calls/leaps than otm ones, especially given the big swings some of the stocks took I traded in recent years.

He made some very good points. I learned the lesson the hard way. Ouch.

Rick



To: JustLearning who wrote (1805)1/27/2000 9:36:00 PM
From: SecularBull  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 8096
 
Not a QCOM player, but one alternative when you have trouble deciding is to split the difference. You can either buy the 160s in the middle (of 120 and 200), or buy some 120s and some 200s. You can also ladder (120s, 160s, 200s...)

I'm always much more conservative, personally. My sometimes employed rule of thumb is to not spend more than 33-50% of the equity price on an option (lower is, of course, better).

Regards and Good Investing,

LoF