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To: Petz who wrote (90846)	2/1/2000 2:28:00 AM
From: Process Boy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1577019

Petz - <Here's some questions: 1. What is A-O silicon? This report is laughable. He states PIV first Si didn't fare well. Later he's talking about A-0 Si being "fairly healthy".... Which is it ACE? A-0 is SYNONOMOUS with FIRST SI. Pffft. <2. If A-O silicon was "buggy" how did it boot Windows NT? > Exactly. <Or is this the second iteration, less than a month after first silicon?> Second iterations are not A-0. 1,2,3,... <For those interested, there's probably some good discussion on Ace's bulletin board, I haven't looked there yet.> Wonderful. I can't wait to see how much confusion this is going to induce. PB

To: Petz who wrote (90846)	2/1/2000 9:03:00 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 1577019

Re: Willamette: Integer ... 5% better than the Coppermine, FPU performance has definitly improved... That's all they're getting with the "trace cache", large die size and high dissipation? Somebody's sandbagging, the chip described wouldn't be competitive with the fast cache Athlon that will be out by November, and I'm sure Willamette will be competitive. It's not going to be that easy :-( Regards, Dan

To: Petz who wrote (90846)	2/1/2000 12:00:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Respond to of 1577019

RE:"The first silicon of the Pentium IV (Alias Willamette) didn't fare well (read more here). "... Hummm...very interesting... 1.3gig in the lab..."in the lab"? Frozen lab? Athlon, actually sampling 1.2Gig...key is "sampling"... As in real silicon. November/December launch... as in 10-11 months... Lot's of time for those samples to become production. Jim

To: Petz who wrote (90846)	2/1/2000 1:28:00 PM
From: Charles R	Respond to of 1577019

Petz, <Here's some more definitive info on Willy schedule and tapeout. aceshardware.com see 2nd article for Tues. Feb 1 > Looked around Ace's and the bulletin boards. There is a little bit of bad info but otherwise what Ace's is reporting seems to be pretty much accurate. (Ace's got misled in December about first silicon being bad. The current silicon is the first [or A0] silicon) Intel is back in the game. Not necessarily ahead but clearly back. To be sure, Wilamette MHz so far is not overwhelming given the super-duper notch process and the expectations I heard before tapeout. Intel is seeing product in the same MHz ballpark as what AMD is seeing in Dresden. Both parties have some advantages at this point. Looks like we will have a very interesting Q4. Chuck