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To: Hans de Vries who wrote (91436)	2/3/2000 10:59:00 PM
From: kash johal	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1575877

Hans, re:"timna die size:Since Timna has: 1) PIII processor core = ~100 mm2 2) 740 3D graphics core = ~125 mm2 (450 mm2 in 0.35!) 3) Chipset functionality = ... mm2 We can estimate the die size at ~250 mm2 in 0.18 which is huge. Is Intel going to use this for the cheapest systems?" I think you are way off here. The CPU core only has 128Kl2 cache not 256K I believe - so say 80mm2. The graphics and chipset and memeory controller may get up to 50mm2 max IMHO. In a low cost plastic BGA we are looking at a $40 cost. They will likely sell tons at $70-80. VIA will have a tough time methinks. By the time they set up to compete with celeron and a socket 370 drop in Intel will essentially kill off the celeron by Q3. regards, Kash

To: Hans de Vries who wrote (91436)	2/3/2000 11:55:00 PM
From: Charles R	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575877

Hans, <Timna Die size ~250 mm2 in 0.18 micron? Since Timna has: 1) PIII processor core = ~100 mm2 2) 740 3D graphics core = ~125 mm2 (450 mm2 in 0.35!) 3) Chipset functionality = ... mm2 We can estimate the die size at ~250 mm2 in 0.18 which is huge. > Welcome aboard. These numbers look way too high to me. Also, wouldn't it be easier if you add estimated CuMine-128 die size with i820 die size to get the total die size. Why even bring 740 into the picture? Chuck