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To: JC Jaros who wrote (27886)	2/17/2000 8:34:00 AM
From: JDN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Dear JC: Now that we are into chickens I may be able to add something here. Used to audit very large chicken farms. While I eat a lot of chicken and dont look for range chickens, I can tell you Commercial Chicken farms are not pretty and not something you would want to live within 5 miles of. Basically they stink!! THOUSANDS of chickens are kept in sheds never to see the light of day. As to range chickens, my brother used to have chickens and a very large fenced in yard. He let them run loose (range) but he had nests for them and believe it or not, for the most part, when it came time to lay an egg they hopped right in and did it there. Perhaps that is the definition of a range chicken? JDN

To: JC Jaros who wrote (27886)	2/18/2000 7:47:00 AM
From: nihil	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 64865

Damn it, Jaros, didn't you ever live in the country? Chickens are naturally friendly and companiable and like to hang with people. They also like the farm yard dog who protects them from varmints. Most of the non-nesting chickens roost in the low branches of the trees. (Chickens can actually fly!). The nests are located in a barn or outbuilding, where the farmwife can steal most of the newlaid eggs everyday. (A "nestegg" of china is left in the nest to convince the hen that she still has a family there (if you took everything even a hen might be smart enough to move somewhere more secure. hens can't count very well (sound of hen counting: "one" "one" "one" "They are all there!"). I love chickens. They are very amorous. They have wonderful parasites. They greet the dawn -- the morning SUNW -- with eagerness. Their eggs taste good. They taste good. A good hysterical border collie will herd your chickens for you and find wild nests, as will any good bird hunting dog.

To: JC Jaros who wrote (27886)	2/18/2000 8:40:00 AM
From: Lynn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Dear JCJ: Early yesterday evening my neighbor and I went to the A@P in preparation for the snow and sleet we are getting this afternoon. Thinking I might be able to figure out where the chickenboys herd the free range chickens around here so I can video a round up then put it on the web for your enjoyment, I looked at the packaging and, to my dismay, saw that imported free range chickens are sold in E. CT. Yes, these are not local free range chickens but imports from Mechanicsburg, PA! This really surprised me because I know, for a fact, that there are large herds of chickens in E. CT (where the A@P is). Their presence is not easily determined in the winter, but come spring, it is impossible _not_ to 'sense' that a herd has just passed thru an area: One has to close car windows when driving on side roads through farming areas. Some roads off 14A, which eventually intersects with the CT Turnpike, 395, are major free range chicken herding areas. One would expect to drive down roads through free range chicken zones in E. CT and see chicken road kills. I have never seen a squashed chicken on the road or even heard anyone mention having hitting one. This said, I am 99% sure why the free range chickens are sensed but rarely, if ever, seen: The chicken are rounded up by the chicken boys and driven to a farm where they frolic on the farmers fields for a set period of time before herded up by the chickenboys and driven to another farm. At each farm they are driven to, wireless fencing is temporarily laid on the edge of the field by all roads. Now, I do not know how many hours a day the Humane Society allows these free range chickens to frolic in farmers fields, but at the end of the work day, the chicken boys drive them to motel rooms for the night where they lay their eggs. At the end of a season up here, the chickenboys drive them to another part of the country. Right now, they might be enjoying themselves somewhere near JDN. I thought about what you said about little chicken armour outfits to protect them from predators. Unless some very expensive space age material was used, these would be uncomfortable and only protect chickens from the teeth of predators but not from the likelihood of having heart attacks when the predator rushes them. This said, it is possible the Mechanicsburg free range chickens we eat up here do wear some kind of outfit because some hidden cost in raising these chickens must account for their high prices in supermarkets. Back to the CT free ranging chickens: I am really surprised the EPA has not stepped in and fined either the chickenboys or farmers who permit the chickens on their fields. The air pollution these chickens create is unbelievable. One must experience it to believe it. Regards, Lynn