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To: Process Boy who wrote (93780)	2/17/2000 2:55:00 AM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1576851

As far as I'm concerned: 1) His claim the 1.5 was not air-cooled. Anyone who watches the demo can see they refer to the demo as air cooled. This has evidently been verified to JC's and ACE's satisfaction. 2) The .18 xtors won't run at 3GHz thing. I was skeptical on this myself. Now he is claiming that he meant control logic only. Pretty sloppy research if this is true, as everyone and their brother has been saying ALU for 36 hours. 3) That the Willy demo'd yesterday is now a hybrid 1000/ 500. Utter nonsense. Anyone who actually watches the demo knows this. Wrt these pts, there is not total agreement; others, including the media, have made claims differing from the statements in your bullits. However I thing you feel confortable enough with your sources to say that they are true. Others do not. That's a very big difference from having unanimity. And at least part of the reason for the lack of unanimity is due to the lack of verifiable info from Intel.....Intel is choosing to make things unclear. Why? And before you cite patent issues, I am absolutely convinced that Intel is smart enough to have covered those issues prior to putting on the demo. My point is he is NOT RESEARCHING or EVEN TAKING THE TIME to look at the video HIMSELF. There has been all sorts of CRAP posted to bulletin boards, and he's latching on to the first hint of anything negative. This is plainly obvious. Neither you nor I know what Scumbria is doing in terms of research so its not worth discussing. ted

To: Process Boy who wrote (93780)	2/17/2000 5:59:00 AM
From: Goutam	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576851

PB, re: The .18 xtors won't run at 3GHz thing. I was skeptical on this myself. Now he is claiming that he meant control logic only. I make it a point to read all Scrumbia's posts and pay attention to whenever he discusses matters related to Processor architecture. He did mention about the control logic - it's you that missed it - because you are not a CPU architecture guy to grasp the whole picture from Scrumbia's posts unless its explained to you. Also, read Scrumbia's posts again and don't leave the subtle qualifiers or technical terms in his comments - especially pay attention where he says ".18 xtors won't run at 3GHz ...." ( "..." indicates few important words you left out from Scrumbia's post - for you the left out part may not look significant or important, but its essential to understand what Scrumbia is trying to elicit) Pretty sloppy research if this is true, as everyone and their brother has been saying ALU for 36 hours. It's my recollection that Scrumbia was the first one expressed that if there is any thing running at 3GHz on Willamette chip, then it might be just a tiny circuit on the chip running at 3GHz. The ALU details on this board appeared later in response to his posts. Regards, Goutama