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To: Paul Engel who wrote (94644)2/22/2000 7:32:00 PM
From: Epinephrine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1576322
 
RE: <Just as knowing which stock that is going UP tomorrow is a clue as to what stock to buy today.>

That's a pretty sarcastic response and I am not sure I am reading you right but what I get from that is that you agree that if the information is true then it would be extremely bullish for AMD since it would make their stock be UP tomorrow (metaphorically) and thus a good buy today.

<Now - just who is this Johan?>

Johan is a columnist at www.aceshardware.com, I think he is the webmaster too. Forgive my vagueness but I have never been questioned on his credentials before and in truth have very little information regarding them but he wrote the article in question:

aceshardware.com

I thought it actually portrayed Willamette in a pretty favorable light but I will go back and reread it with an eye toward spotting bias. If you read it please let me know what you think.

Thanks,

Epinephrine.

PS: Elmer, Process Boy, Tenchusatsu, no one could accuse you of being biased in favor of AMD. In that light your opinions may be one of the best metrics. Do you think Johan is biased or an AMD cheerleader?



To: Paul Engel who wrote (94644)2/22/2000 7:58:00 PM
From: Epinephrine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1576322
 
<but I will go back and reread it with an eye toward spotting bias.>

Paul,

I have reread Johan's article and I'm glad I did. His numbers make even more sense to me now. (ie I know where he got them) He is basing his assumption on the fact that the Athlon has a dual issue FPU (2 instructions per cycle) times the number of cycles (in this case 1.2GHz) for a theoretical max of 2.4Gigaflops whereas the Willamette will have (his assumption) a single issue FPU like the PIII (1 instruction per cycle) times the number of cycles (in this case 1.4GHz...note the Mhz advantage he gave the Willamette) for a theoretical max of 1.4Gigaflops. The SSE/3DNow estimates are similar calculations based on the number of SIMD instructions the processors can issue per clock. Admitedly he is assuming that Willamette will retain the PIII's single issue FPU. but other than that all his calculations seem solidly based in documented information and sound logic. But you had said:

<You are missing the fact that Johan (Mean stuff deleted) is completely wrong.>

Are you saying that you think Willamette will get a dual issue FPU. or do you disagree with Johan that the Willamette will only have a single SSE execution unit because I think those are the only factors that would effect these theoretical maximum architectural numbers. PLEASE let me know if you are claiming that the Willamette will get a dual issue FPU.

Thanks,

Epinephrine



To: Paul Engel who wrote (94644)2/22/2000 8:20:00 PM
From: hmaly  Respond to of 1576322
 
Paul Re...<<<<Better yet, if Willamette carried the AMD logo, would he have found that it was 42% FASTER than a Coppermine at the same clock speed ?

Paul>>>>>>>

Of course he would have but I thought Amd was going to name their new processor Thunderbird, not Willamette.