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To: epicure who wrote (75056)	2/23/2000 8:47:00 AM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Since at least the 19th century, "modernization" has basically been synonymous with "westernization".....When the Meiji reformers decided to modernize, they simply borrowed from the West. When Ataturk decided to modernize, so did he. Sun- Yat Sen was a Methodist, and a product of mission schools. Mao Tse- Tung was also a product of mission schools, and Chao En- Lai studied in Paris, as did Ho Chi Minh. They all looked to the West for the model of modernization. Nehru went to school in Britain (his family was wealthy), and the Congress Party was made up of people with Western style educations, although some, like Gandhi, got it in India........

To: epicure who wrote (75056)	2/23/2000 11:41:00 AM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Yes I did miss the post. Have no idea of the context or definition that may have been used in the discussion. HOWEVER -- I'll just take a WAG and agree with Neo. "Modern" thought, dress, music and disposal of human waste are almost exclusively western. This is not to imply that modern is always best, or even better. I once posted something here (perhaps to you) about Paul Newman describing all the possible different kinds of ***ing there might be -- love , power , mercy , etc. Sometimes I wonder if you have a similar list for types of disagreement. I think you do it for sport, for spite, for real, for a hundred other reasons. You do it a lot. Which is OK by me. Please keep your disagreement with these observations brief as I am fairly busy today. Thank you. M