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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49573)2/24/2000 11:22:00 AM
From: Enigma  Respond to of 116764
 
Nothing like a (humble?) opinion?



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49573)2/24/2000 11:46:00 AM
From: Ahda  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116764
 
cbs.marketwatch.com
Ron please read this. To me it is frightening. If you think settlement on pennies on the dollar and playing with interest rates to keep this economy relatively comfortable you add employment rates continually going down yet a constant increase beyond and above norm in personal debt.

No doom just can't seem to be able to peg it as to what the end result could be. From an accounting point of view you can't be this far in debt.

I don't know how much of the market is foreign funds. Then i start to think all blue skies there are no clouds. Has futuristic thinking taking over realism? Was there ever a period like this in history?



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49573)2/24/2000 12:31:00 PM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 116764
 
Ron sez: (maybe he [Gore] should hire some Buddhist baggage handlers.. :0)

What makes you think bloodying the nose of a huge religious sect helps you make your political point?

Whatzamatter, aren't Buddhist greenbacks as welcome as Catholic greenbacks or Falwell Greenbacks?



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49573)2/24/2000 1:20:00 PM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116764
 
As so much has been writen on the thread about "the good"(gag) Mr. Rubin & the evil of some banks of late, this may fit:








THURSDAY
FEBRUARY 24
2000


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Big guns must be
OK with Citibank
Firm's 'no firearms' policy
doesn't apply to fighter jets

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By Jon E. Dougherty
¸ 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

Despite Citibank's recently publicized policy of not doing business with firms "that manufacture or sell military weapons, military munitions or firearms," new information indicates the New York-based global banking giant may be selective about enforcing its own policy.
Though company spokesmen have denied Citibank pursues "business relationships" with such firms, a newly discovered press release tells a different story. Dated Nov. 30, 1999, the release states that Sanford I. Weill, 66, chairman and co-chief executive officer of Citigroup, was elected to the board of directors of United Technologies Corporation, a company that manufactures Pratt & Whitney engines for jet fighters, as well as Sikorsky helicopters for the military and other "aerospace and defense products." Citigroup is the parent company of Citibank and Travelers.

According to the report, United Technologies Corporation Chairman and CEO George David "noted the long-time ties between Citigroup and UTC, and its predecessor, United Aircraft & Transport. Gordon Rentschler, then chairman of National City Bank of New York, now Citibank, was Frederick Rentschler's brother, a founder and a former chairman of United Aircraft & Transport. Gordon Rentschler also sat on United's Board, as have five other senior Citibank executives."
Twisted gun barrel artwork on the United Nations' grounds in New York, with giant Citibank building looming in the background. Photo by WND contributing reporter Ed Oliver.


Weill, who became chairman and co-chief executive officer of Citigroup Inc. in October 1998, was also hailed by David in the report as "one of the best known and most respected businessmen in America," and someone who "brings to UTC's board of directors a lifetime of distinguished business experience."

The controversy over Citibank's anti-gun firm policy began last week when WorldNetDaily reported that a small Las Vegas-based firearms organization, the Nevada Pistol Academy, had its three-day-old business account suddenly closed by a local Citibank branch. The denial came after the Citibank branch manager remembered the global corporation's policy forbidding any business relationships with groups or companies dealing in weapons.

According to a letter sent to academy manager Chris Lorenzo, the local bank branch said Citibank had a corporate-wide policy prohibiting branches from "maintaining accounts for businesses that deal in weapons." Lorenzo was accidentally allowed to open the account, said Citibank spokesman Mark Rodgers, but three days later the branch corrected the error and sent Lorenzo a "Notice of Account Closure," citing the policy as the reason.

The policy was then confirmed to WorldNetDaily by Rodgers as corporate rather than local banking policy. But Rodgers also said, specifically, "Citibank's consumer business has a longstanding policy of not engaging in financial relationships with businesses that manufacture or sell military weapons, military munitions or firearms."

As in the past, repeated attempts by WorldNetDaily to solicit comments or clarifications about the policy from Citibank's corporate public relations department in New York City went unanswered.

For his part, however, Nevada Pistol Academy manager Chris Lorenzo told WorldNetDaily on Wednesday he sees obvious "hypocrisy" in Citibank's decision to conduct business with UTC but not his company. He added, though, that he wasn't upset with the global financial giant and said he would "defend to the death Citibank's right to refuse business from anyone."

"I'm not 'out to get' Citibank," Lorenzo said, "and they're free to do business with whomever they want. That's the American way. However, if they choose not to do business with firearms or weapons companies, I also think people have a right to know that beforehand."

Lorenzo said he was unsure about earlier reports that the National Rifle Association was investigating whether or not to file a lawsuit against Citibank based on federal banking laws. The NRA could not be reached for comment.

But he said he was emphatic about a few things. "I don't want their (Citibank's) money, and I'm not doing this to get back at them, either."

Rather, he believes that if enough notoriety comes from this incident, Citibank may either be compelled to change its policy, or other banks and firms "presently considering a similar policy might change their minds."

In the fallout from Citibank's decision, pro-gun activists around the country have already begun to urge a boycott of the company. They are asking pro-gun business owners not to accept Citibank credit cards and asking all pro-gun supporters to "cut and return" their Citibank cards to the company.
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worldnetdaily.com



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49573)2/27/2000 10:04:00 AM
From: Alan Whirlwind  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
Bradley fills the TV airwaves as Gore lies low (sure does)

cnn.com

Chinese Buddhist monks land gig in Las Vegas

cnn.com

Monks burn papers

cnn.com

Now to continue on topic. I have been in and out of at least a dozen mining stocks since the early '90's. Most of them have been losers. I have owned, for example, Cornucopia and Royal Oak (fortunately sold both at a relatively small loss). Several others I sit with now well in the red.

But I picked four stocks that have done me well and they have way more than made up for my sins of indiscretion. I'm thinking that despite the innuendos thrown the gold bugs' way (even on threads such as this one) about sitting in a losing investment, whining while the world goes by and hoping for a crash of some sort to even the playing field, there have been many here who have made careful picks among their portfolios that have done them justice. It's not the price of gold or silver or graphite--it's the stock! I just had my best one week in mining stocks ever despite the fall in the POG, and I own nothing that drills for palladium.