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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/25/2000 7:59:00 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576238

Tenchusatsu, re:party line Your party line sounds good but wrong. Gateway has Athlon 850s now. And other vendors selling 850 systems NOW. HP Athlon 800 at Best Buy. It was even in their Sunday ad. DELL >30 days for an Intel PeeWee 3-800 Nothing wrong with my facts, just your fantasy. Are you posting from Intel facilities? Make it so, Mysef

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/25/2000 8:07:00 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576238

Tenchusatsu, while you're here, thanks to "MrIdeal" on the yahoo thread! shopping.hp.com shopping.hp.com Comes with Windows 2000 HP Athlon 850s! steve

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/25/2000 8:58:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 1576238

Tenchu, I think the fact that the HPs and GTWs/IBMs use a non standard mobo means a little extra time for the mobo makers to make their shape mobo...test it and then make a bunch means that the early birds will always be the screwdriver shops....they simply take standard shaped mobos. IBM, GTW, HP would never do that because it would leave an exit path via upgrade via a new mobo from a screwdriver shop and they all want to sell a new box to the client and for that reason assiduously eschew a mobo upgrade path(unless they sell you one). In addition AMD will probably try to make their releases in such a manner that they do not leave the name brands behind the speed point with finished systems. So I expect they have indeed shipped some 1 GHZ and even above to the majors to allow them to close the funny shaped mobo loop even as they work down their older stocks. Bill

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/25/2000 11:24:00 PM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1576238

Tench - RE: "That statement was little more than PR. In terms of actual volumes at release time, nothing has changed for AMD. Take the 850 MHz Athlon release, for example. Only a few OEMs are selling systems right now with that speed grade, and vendors on Pricewatch had to take pre-orders on the thing several weeks after the actual launch. This is the same standard that AMD used for every other processor launch." Oh yeah, look at Intel

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/26/2000 11:57:00 AM
From: Daniel Schuh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576238

Just to join in the fun, you can always compare pricewatch.com to pricewatch.com . I'm pretty confused, actually, why all you Intel guys spend so much time FUDding around here. If AMD is so hopeless, it'll come out soon enough, and you'll all be able to engage in Paul "Athwipe" Engel style nyah-nyah-nyahing to your hearts content. To the naive outside observer, it looks like AMD is delivering, for a change, and Intel is, er, uh, sending a lot of guys here to- what, exactly? Cheers, Dan.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (95205)	2/26/2000 6:51:00 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576238

That statement was little more than PR. In terms of actual volumes at release time, nothing has changed for AMD. Take the 850 MHz Athlon release, for example. Only a few OEMs are selling systems right now with that speed grade, and vendors on Pricewatch had to take pre-orders on the thing several weeks after the actual launch. This is the same standard that AMD used for every other processor launch. Tench, what do they serve you guys for lunch at Intel...the Red Chinese want to know.....they have been having some trouble keeping the comrades in line. ted