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To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 7:48:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 18222

"Will Details Follow on ZiaSun's Stock Chat Lawsuit? Brevity may be the soul of wit, but not necessarily thorough news accounts. Media coverage of the dismissal of ZiaSun Technologies' defamation lawsuit against eight posters of stock-board messages was short to the point of being incomplete. ZiaSun is a little-known company whose shares trade on the over-the-counter bulletin board, according to TheStreet.com. Last June, it accused eight Silicon Investor chatters of defaming it. On Jan. 21, ZiaSun won a preliminary injunction against one of the posters, Floyd Schneider, preventing him from making "false statements" about ZiaSun while the case was pending, the Wall Street Journal reported. Earlier this week, U.S. District Judge Marsha J. Pechman threw out the case, saying that the Seattle location for the suit was not the proper venue. ZiaSun had filed the suit there because it's the location of Silicon Investor's headquarters. The judge didn't buy that line of reasoning and tossed out the case. Judge Pecham's decision also voided her earlier injunction, against the posters, the Journal reported. The muffling of Schneider "struck a nerve in the freewheeling world of Internet stock chatter," the paper wrote. "It also surprised many legal experts, who said it was unusual for such restraints to be granted in cases where freedom of speech was an issue." What did ZiaSun do to inspire the vigorous criticism, alleged to include thousands of postings? Details were sketchy. The Journal noted that ZiaSun alleged that the defendants had wrongly accused the company and its executives of a scheme to mislead and defraud investors. The cyber dissing was a conspiracy to drive down its stock price, ZiaSun countered, according to the Journal. All the brouhaha begs the question: If the issue was serious enough to constitute a free-speech conflict, shouldn't outlets have provided a few more details? What exactly were the defendants posting? Is there any truth to the allegations, however loudmouthed they might be? What kind of business is ZiaSun in? No one bothered to tell readers. News reports pegged Schneider's online handle as The Truthseeker. If only the media were as enthusiastic. thestandard.net

To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 7:50:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 18222

There was a time that I did not go by the name of Truthseeker, my alias on SI was Flodyie, thestreet.com misspelled it "who use Web names such as Bear Down, Floydie and Tastes Like Chicken," A Cybersleuth Claims Credit for SEC Action on Bulletin-Board Stocks By Eric Moskowitz Senior Writer 2/5/99 3:00 PM ET With the explosive growth of online trading, a nether world is evolving in which individual investors, cybervigilantes and Internet gurus meet in online stock chat rooms. Like bit players in a John Ford movie, these colorful characters populate the Wild West of Wall Street. See also Trading Suspensions Growing More Common WWW Internet Fund Finds Net Stocks Can Turn South Quickly With individual investors taking an increasingly prominent role in this bull market, these online main streets -- full of gossip, opinion, invective, hype and sometimes hard news -- can exert hefty pressure on stocks. And taking center stage are the Silicon Investor chat boards. The cybersleuths here, often dismissed as kooks or crooks, recently received some vindication from regulators. Last Friday, the Securities and Exchange Commission suspended trading for 10 days on six over-the-counter bulletin board stocks after they suddenly rocketed even without any material news. The impetus to halt trading came from Steve Pluvia (not his real last name), a well-known poster on Silicon Investor who has seen his fair share of controversy. On Jan. 25, a full week before the SEC halted trading in four of the stocks, Pluvia started a thread titled "One Big Scam? CTRN, ECTS, IVHD, SMEK and MALB." The stocks subsequently halted by the SEC included Citron (CTRN:OTC BB), Smartek (SMEK:OTC BB), Electronic Transfer Associates (ECTS:OTC BB) and Invest Holdings Group (IVHD:OTC BB). Pluvia and his cyberassociates, who use Web names such as Bear Down, Floydie and Tastes Like Chicken, represent a new breed of sleuth/investor in search of instant gratification. Perhaps this breed owes its existence to the rampant bull market and evolving computer technology. Ever since Silicon Investor -- now owned by Go2Net (GNET:Nasdaq) -- started more than three years ago, Pluvia has used the chat boards to communicate his findings as he tracks small-cap companies that fall beneath Wall Street's radar.

To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 7:54:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 18222

BTW Mrs. Hoghead you should read this thread a valuable lesson for all. There are many more including USAT. Subject 25226

To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 8:03:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 18222

You see Mrs Hedgehog, its K-Man scum like this that is polluting our equity markets SI: StockTalk: Communications: USAT Long Distance Telecommunications Previous \| Next \| Respond View Replies (2) \| View Next 10 Messages To: Mitch Aunger who wrote (375) From: Francois Goelo Saturday, July 3, 1999 1:05 AM ET Reply # of 397 Here are details of a POTENTIAL MILESTONE LAW SUIT that... could result in a CLEANING UP of the BOARDS where Short Selling Bashers (SSB's) have been roaming unimpeded for far too long: Message 10372435 Regards, F. Goelo + + +

To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 8:17:00 PM
From: Anthony@Pacific	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 18222

Mrs Hoghead, Do us all a favor and take your miserable investment decision, and refelect on how anyone could be so stupid as to own this scammaramma of a pumporamma before you bash good guys like Truth. Mrs Hog who are you and why do you insist on provoking those who exposed this fraud. All it will do is galvanize our resolve to make sure the scam is forever imbedded into the annals of time. Mrs Hog its obvious you arent very bright, all you know how to do is copy and paste and copy and paste the same trash over and over.. If you spent as much time doing actual reserach on turds before you roll them up and gobble them up, ( as we all know PIGS AND HOGS DO, They are one of the only animals that eats its own feces), Im assuming that this trait may be appealing to you but rest assured it is not to real investors, You may be able to graduate from a Hoghead to a bovine beast or possibly even a winged wombat. I sugegst you take a good look around and point your cloven hoof at the real dirttbags, Manny and Tom.

To: Mrs. Hoghead who wrote (8534)	3/28/2000 8:18:00 PM
From: StockDung	Respond to of 18222

Mrs Hedgehog, to continue your education tonight I suggest you go to this USAT link Subject 24543 it is what happened days before the trading halt. USAT had a 1.2 billion dollar market cap. It now trades for less than a buck. Yes, thetruthseeker was there and some other names you might recognize. It is said that this information that was uncovered was the final nail in USAT's coffin Message 7444999 USAT - USA TALKS.COM INC Exchange: OTC Delay: at least 15 minutes Last Price: 0.32 at 15:25 EST Change: Down 0.117 (-26.77%) High: 0 1/2 Low: 0 1/4 at 13:09 EST Open: 0 3/8 Previous Close: 0.437 on 3/27 Volume: 1,166 Currency Units: US Dollar Confirm all data with your broker or financial advisor before trading. Data by: S&P ComStock