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To: SteveC who wrote (102168)4/5/2000 1:26:00 AM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1570918
 
Steve,

OT

I suppose trial lawyers are also responsible for El Nino, athlete's foot and road rage.

I bet if the lawyers could find someone with money that they can tie to any of the above, they would sue.

Have you considered that most trial lawyers in U.S. are actually working for one corporation that is suing another corporation?

Yes I have considered it. If you live in a corrupt system, you have to protect yourself. In Russia, you hire some goons with machine guns for protection, in the United States you hire goons with law degrees.

We have less and less integrity in the legal system, in personal relations, and business relations. Perjury is allowed to go on unpunished, people get away with murder - literally, application of justice is not consistent.

Just because you and your corporation follows every law there is doesn't mean you are safe. You have to hire the goons anyway, because the environment is corrupt, and you need them to survive.

Consumer class actions, while they grab the headlines, are a much smaller percentage of suits.

Do you have any data to back this up? The lawsuits other than class action are in the same category. You have lawyers suing on behalf of single individual, be it consumer or a disgruntled employee (or anyone who wants steal somebody's wealth through the use of the justice system.)

Exxon allowed a drunk to operate one the world's biggest oil tankers.

That's a very liberal use of the language. Wouldn't you happen to be a lawyer yourself? The captain of that ship was violating the policy of the corporation.

$5 billion judgment against Exxon for the Valdez oil spill. The jury award was largely for fishermen and other small businessmen whose livelihoods were destroyed by the spill.

I don't know if the entire GDP of Alaska is $5 billion. I highly doubt that the fishermen in a limited area generate that much revenue in their lifetime. And few years after the disaster, they are back fishing again.

I don't know what the fair amount would be, but $5 billion was yet another money grab.

Just consider this scenario: The Exxon oil tanker is sitting anchored in the bay, waiting for something, let's say high tide. A drunk fisherman with no insurance crashes into the oil tanker and causes the same damage. Do you think the same lawyers would pass on suing Exxon anyway? Exxon was obviously guilty for allowing a drunk fisherman crash into their tanker.

There is a belief that for any tragedy out there, you have to find a person or an entity with money, tie him somehow to the tragedy and steal his money through the use of the legal system.

If you can't find anyone even remotely related, you sue the city, state or the federal government.

Joe



To: SteveC who wrote (102168)4/5/2000 1:54:00 AM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1570918
 
Steve C RE...<<<I suppose trial lawyers are also responsible for El Nino, athlete's foot and road rage. Have you considered that most trial lawyers in U.S. are actually working for one corporation that is suing another corporation? >>>>>>>>>

Steve, did I say they were responsible for road rage, el Nino etc. What I said is they are responsible for the corruption that permeates the legal system; to such an extent the the legal system is bankrupt as a form of justice. Lawyers suing one corporation against another using this piece of shit; just increases cost of products. What I would like is a system where loser pay court costs and legal fees. If your expert witness is lying; you lose case period; plus expert witness is liable for damages;and if legal firm encouraged lying to get bigger settlement,they should also be held accountable. That would stop the lying; and filing of scam lawsuits. Without honesty, there can be no justice.