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To: epicure who wrote (76958)	4/6/2000 1:45:00 AM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 108807

HIP - HIP - HOORAH! Everyone should read these words of wisdom from X: I'm for giving adults whatever they want- people have every right to harm themselves in my universe- but I don't want to pay for their mistakes. So, if they lose a liver over alcohol- no transplant, or if they lose their brain on LSD no transplant (joke). But you get the idea- of course you have to have some compassion, I suppose, compassion is actually why I'm for decriminalization. I think having our jails full of drug criminals is LUDICROUS. I don't give a crap about drug use. I'm much more concerned about murder and rape and really vicious crimes with victims. And of course you can cut drug related crime if drugs are decriminalized and cheap- which would probably go some to cut the murder rate. And I don't make the argument because I want to use drugs- I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I have no desire to use any drugs- but I don't see why I should inflict that lifestyle choice on anyone else.

To: epicure who wrote (76958)	4/6/2000 2:25:00 AM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I agree with you on almost every point. <<I don't drink, I don't smoke, and I have no desire to use any drugs- but I don't see why I should inflict that lifestyle choice on anyone else.>> If you can show me that the regular and currently illegal use of drugs by "dopers" does not effect the lifestyle choices of innocent people, I'm with you. I would like to see a sociological study of the effects, positive or negative, on people and systems effected by the lifestyle choices dopers make. I have a real hard time believing there are not incidental victims lying around all over the place. Victimless crimes you say. Maybe if you are talking about a closet drunk and you are saying his morning nausia and head ache are no body else's business. But if this lifestyle has incidious effects on that reach beyond one drunken episode, I think that should be taken into account prior to calling it victimless.

To: epicure who wrote (76958)	4/6/2000 12:21:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

People in jail for simple possession bugs me. The Government condoning massive confiscations of property on suspicion of drug involvement REALLY bothers me. If we decriminalized drugs, we would remove one of the biggest temptations that Federal through local governments face regarding the removal of civil liberties (in order to swell the gov't coffers). I am not sure if legalizing drugs will ultimately be cheaper, since the dissolution of border commandos etc. will be balanced by increased funding for education and diversion programs. But I'd rather have more teachers than DEA blackshirts. Jmo of course. And it would be a foreign relations COUP - we could face Mexico, Colombia etc. with a lot less shame and hypocrisy. The single best things for the elected regimes in those states would be to simply remove the backbone (money) from the parallel vampire states built up by the narcotraficantes.

To: epicure who wrote (76958)	4/6/2000 4:51:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

X --You would seem by your own reports of your personal behavior and academic background (not to mention your intellect) to be well suited to having actual opinions. Although you can be a royal pain in the tush here in your role as the ultimate contrarian from time to time, you clearly have much to offer in the world beyond your doorstep. IMO, it is our loss when you chose to abdicate. Perhaps there is one of those long weird .....phopia words that describes ".....fear of being right, ALL THE TIME." Please -- Join the club. M