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To: Edwarda who wrote (76995)	4/6/2000 2:46:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Sorry. I should have stopped at the first sentence. Here it is. The line: Where there is overwhelming evidence that the risks far outway the potential to benefit; and where claims of benefits prove spurious.

To: Edwarda who wrote (76995)	4/6/2000 2:51:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

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To: Edwarda who wrote (76995)	4/6/2000 2:57:00 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

No, you don't need to regulate all activity since every activity carries risks. In some cases we might even support an activity where high risk of harm is predictable; like for example scientific experimentation. I read where the first seven submarines sunk with the pilots locked inside. Thirty years ago a good case could be made that drug experimentation might lead to a consciousness break through to a higher level of understanding and being. Richard Albert (Ram Das) Timothy Leary, Jim Morrison and other charismatic Americans presented a very convincing proposition. That movement died because it didn't work. Now we are left only with the legacy of a terrible trail of tragic tales.

To: Edwarda who wrote (76995)	4/6/2000 3:29:00 PM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Edwarda, if I may chime in, an example of where we draw the line is .08 (as I noted in a msg to X, last night). It's an easy line (law) to draw but a rather poor indicator of degree of offense -- It does make it VERY easy to convict -- and collect money and votes. These kinds of laws also tend to reverse, in practical terms, the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused. As for brandishing a fist in the face (shame on Neo) -- it's a nothing deal -- UNLESS 1. You brandish it in the President's face, in which case you will have to explain to the Secret Service that you really, really didn't mean it. 2. You brandish it in the face of an aircrew member, in which case you probably will be charged. 3. You brandish in the face of a cop, in which case your bullet riddled corpse will be the subject of community unrest. Mike