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To: one_less who wrote (77853)4/11/2000 5:15:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
A contract is a contract. Deal with the devil and all that.



To: one_less who wrote (77853)4/11/2000 5:22:00 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Well, I have attended a lot of NBA games and have noticed the opposite here in Dallas- people DO stand, and many sing along, and place their hands over their hearts. Of course this is Bible Belt territory and love of country is pretty close to love of God.

Hakeem Olajawon is also a Muslim and he has never had a problem with the idea of standing. But I think he said that as Islam was a religion of peace, he didn't think that it was right to create such a conflict about it.

I thought the whole thing was pretty stupid, and I think the coach handled it well until forced to address it publicly. Now that I think about it this makes me think of the Elian Gonzales affair-- with all the different parties and agendas screaming and insisting and the whole true issue (and possible quiet solution) is completely lost in the uproar.



To: one_less who wrote (77853)4/11/2000 6:19:00 PM
From: Michael M  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
brees -- I suspect you haven't been to many NBA games. As a former season ticket holder, I've never seen anyone toasted by the time of the anthem and only a very few at any time.

NBA arenas have very strict security and whenever I've seen even a hint of trouble, multiple security people appeared out of nowhere in no time at all.

Further, it is a fact that nearly everyone in the audience stands for the anthem; not the reverse.

As for Abdul Rauf, the fact that he converted to Islam had no bearing on the terms of his contract -- nor should it have.

He eventually agreed to stand during the anthem. Whether, he just stood, prayed, sang, saluted or whatever would have caused little notice as the one group in the building that is not too tuned in to the anthem is usually the players. He CHOSE to create an issue.

He was not "run out" of Colorado, but his team moved him to another team. This was done in the interest of both player and team. He had become too much of a distraction on the Nuggets.

Let me add that any retaliation against Abdul Rauf's fellow believers was WRONG. There are always idiots.

Abdul Rauf went to the Sacramento Kings where, in spite of a very few initial bozo calls to local sports-talk radio, he was greeted with open arms. He had always torched the Kings (he was not alone in that dept.) and Kings' fans were delighted to get such an accurate long-range scoring threat.

As it turned out Abdul Rauf turned out to be aloof in a big league way and never prospered with the team or meshed with its other players. The Kings did not renew his contract. I was glad. This had NOTHING to do with his religion. He is no longer in the NBA and I have no idea if he is playing in an overseas league. I wish him the best.

Mike
Former NorCal resident -- Still a Kings fan. GO KINGS!!

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