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To: one_less who wrote (78002)	4/13/2000 2:17:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

>Morals are innate. At least the ability to confirm right from wrong, when you see it in the world, is an innate element in human make up.< No. I disagree. (Respectfully of course.) Right from wrong is an acquired concept; it is taught. The illusion that right and wrong are innate concepts is supported by our having learned them so early that we don't remember our premoral babyhood. Language is similar. Do you have memories before language? I do, but I find it remarkable that those very early memories carry a "label" in language. Memory is plastic. Humans have a set of instincts that can be trained and shaped into a very broad set of mores. It's possible to take people and teach them into accepting mutually contradictory mores. War is a common result.

To: one_less who wrote (78002)	4/13/2000 11:04:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I must disagree. What is innate is the desire in most humans to be sociable, and to further their sociability humans try to adapt to the morals they are born into. A certain number of people can't or won't adapt (perhaps it comes to the same thing) and these people either move society forward or they are crucified (or sometimes both, in the case of martyrs). The iconoclastic personality is probably a genetic abnormality, it would be tough to have a society of iconoclasts- I think many artists have that set of genes- or whatever sets one up for abnormal social behavior and a different way of looking at the world.