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Strategies & Market Trends : Cents and Sensibility - Kimberly and Friends' Consortium -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kimberly Lee who wrote (97143)4/15/2000 4:44:00 PM
From: If only I'd held  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 108040
 
Kimberly Lee.....Rewrite history? That's not the way I see it. I see it more as writing the history as I see it. I am not at all "bitter or disgrutled" towards Kimberly Lee. I really don't give you enough credit or care enough to have emotions like that towards you. And I really can't say I dislike you.
What I am is, confused about Kimberly Lee. I am confused about how when Kimberly Lee decides to bless the participants of her thread with her presence, they all give her such a huge and warm welcome. It just seems kind of peculiar that you could command such respect from so many people when (**in my opinion**), these same people appear to me to have been little more to you than liquidity for your pump and dumps. (also my opinion)

How have I come to form this opinion? Well, it's the way of your calls I think. Perhaps it's the lack of follow-thru on some of them. Granted, you didn't appear to be telling anyone whether to buy or sell, which I give you credit for. But I beleive you had come to know that by just saying, "I am buying XYZ between blah, blah, blah", others would buy. And they did. And I think you sold it to them as they chased it. Where is the suggestion not to chase the stock? Where is the follow up, that you sold, or that you are adding at lower levels on so many of these picks?
There were just way too many picks where you said you were buying.....and then disappeared into the shadows without any follow-up. And then there's that famous end of the day call.....like......one more quick scalp before I shut down for the day.

IGLD....yeah...ok....you reiterated your endorsement of the stock...on Dec. 22nd...as you say. Do you remember when you pumped it? I do...It was on Nov 30th, 12:21PM (est), approximately 3 hours after about 6 of us, including myself were already talking about the stock and the upcoming news event. We were making money as you were loading up, Yes, our positions were rising on your buying. At least, I figure that's the way it was. I guess you were getting your "clients" in?

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yeah, it was getting bought up...
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Stock's climbing...we're all in the money here...
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That's because Probart and I had talked about the stock the week before on TJ's thread...and we were both buying in at those levels..I think RockNJ and Fred were looking at it too, they might have even picked some up.
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And then.....drumroll please......
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And I just sat here at my desk and busted up laughing. I thought to myself....so that's where all the buying has been coming from. And I wondered, how much money does this Kim have, or how many of her closest freinds received the alert before she posted this publicly. And I wondered....how much did Kim really pay for the stock....and I just continued to laugh.

Did you pump the stock Kim?? Hell, the same message went out twice...probably just an accident??
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hmmm, where did you hear that news from? ahh, doesn't matter.
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You and Mogul are pretty close aren't ya? Only took him 2 minutes to reply. Sorry Mogul, I like you man. But...
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Come on Fred...if I am not mistaken, me and you talked about IGLD days before as well. Weren't you buying with me and Probart from TJ's thread? You know damn well I like you and respect you too, so don't go getting all upset with me over this. You and Kim are kind of close too though aren't ya?

Hmmm. did someone forget about G&J and leave him out in the cold on this one?
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Wait a minute....that's not what Mogul said. He didn't say anything about a rumor in that post G&J responded to. Did we miss a PM in between all this or something?
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Seriously though Kim...were ya pumping it or what?
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In case Fred's memory is fuzzy..
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(Because we were after all, both investors in the stock....from the TJ thread. I think so anyway.)
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Now we need to backtrack for a second...remember how I said...it sold, and sold, and sold, then it finally broke out. You all wonder whether these market makers read these threads?? Wonder no more....
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(yeah, I was kind of stupified and probably pretty damn naive about the situation)
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(nope.) Autofill??....LOL...OK...whatever you say Mogul..I don't think Lehman wanted to see Kim and her freinds pull this one off, and he sold, and sold, and sold. Gosh, the volume that went thru Lehman....bewildering wasn't it guys? It was a huge amount of stock Lehman sold at 12-5/8....but finally, he had to let it go. However, Lehman was actually successful, because the stock only ran about 5 points, so he did in fact stop the stock from being the momo Kim and "select" freinds had hoped for. Imagine if they had let it go from the start, when all that volume originally hit Lehman. Wow, the market would have come to us on that one huh?

How did Greg trade it?

Well, 7-8 points ain't nothin' to shake a stick at right? I sold a little over 1/2 my holdings at 16 on up to 16-3/4 myself....because that paid off the whole position. Besides, the stock was losing steam. Lehman got all the buyers in at 12-5/8 I suppose. I felt really good about that trade, because the stock tanked real fast. Yeah, I thought I was pretty slick. When it got back down in the low 13's and the stock just kept coming back up for sale, I took a bounce and let the rest of my position go at around 14 and change. All but 1,000 shares....which I think I watched dip all the way down into the 8's or so....like 2 or 3 days later...kinda fuzzy. After about 2 or 3 days of selling off, the stock bounced back up and I let the last 1,000 shares go at around 10-1/2 (+/-) Now you all know how I traded it. Yep, I forgot to buy back...got mixed up in other things....and missed that big pop. No big deal.

Where did that bounce come from? How 'bout one more scalp at the end of the day?
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Yeah Kim, you get a lot of slack about those last hour calls...I've seen quite a few jokes about them. Was it that you wanted one last scalp, or were you still sitting on stock you didn't want to hold and were looking for buyers?

Yes Kim, you pumped the stock on Nov 30, and you did say that you were still holding it on Dec 1.
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Kim, are you sure?? Did you check your portfolio? You don't sound anywhere near as enthusiastic as you did the day before. Did you get a partial fill on your sell order or something? After all, that IS the last you said about the stock until 3 weeks later....and hundreds, if not thousands of posts wondering whether Kim was still holding. Endorsement?? Yeah.....
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That post doesn't say that you own it, or that you are buying it. It's 3 weeks after you pumped it too. First mention of the stock for 3 weeks Kim. You never mentioned anything about picking some up when it went way down below that 12-5/8. (well, not till "after the fact, but we'll talk more about that later) Nope...not a word.......for over 3 weeks. Ok, were you sitting on a real small position that you were just kind of not paying attention to? I would have thought you would have sold the stock to raise some cash after it hadn't performed the way you had hoped.
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But not selling your IGLD of course right Kim?

So....Dec 28th....the big day...12:23pm (est) 3 traders give an alert that IGLD is moving. How would they know??? Well, they have the stock sitting in their portfolios and they are watching the stock lite up....
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Bamm, bamm, bamm....all 3 in the same minute.

7 minutes later...(a lifetime in this market), here comes Kim straggling in....(at the time the stock was halted)...to pat herself on the back...
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Were you in the bathroom Kim...at lunch...selling what was left of your IGLD on that pop??? What?? Were you busy trying to get a fill on the stock from reading Big's post....or Mogul's?
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Ooh, so sorry, stock halted.
Of course, Kim let's everyone know the stock is halted about 7 minutes later....right off yahoo. Then....
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hmmm, hold on here a second...you mean to tell me you were invested in this company for over 3 weeks, and you didn't know this was already announced? Hell Kim....everybody knew this...Anthony, me, Mandalou, Fred, Mogul, Big, Rock, Probart....But Kim didn't know?

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Man...look at all the excitement...

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Kim scores 33 points in one day!!! Just look at her excitement!!! She's screaming!! She's so happy!!
Not.....ho hum...old news...only 33 points...woopdedoo......right Kim???

Barb....she's all confused...
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How come nobody told her to stick with it? Well, Barb, I can tell you that Mr. Big and Mogul did mention the stock from time to time...and they did say they were adding some here and there. But we are left to assume that Kimberly Lee sat and let the stock go against her some 30% and never once told the thread she was adding on this dip, selling on that pop, holding what she had...etc...nothing. Oh, but wait....

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Gee Kim, isn't that the after the fact crap I am talking about? Oh yes Kim, of course you did. I guess you just didn't want anyone else to know.....wouldn't want your freinds helping you support your position right?

Sorry Kim....I just don't buy it.

Busy schedule of IPO's and secondaries?? Yeah, I think you have been busy scanning the hot threads looking for trades and ideas and guidance. Could that be how you knew Anthony was talking about you?? You should keep an eye on Rande too...did you happen to catch that post he made PUBLICLY, about the fall of biotechs and techs, less than 2 weeks BEFORE it happened? I didn't catch it myself until after the fact....or maybe I might have saved myself a lot of money on those damn biotechs. Who have you been getting your best trades from lately? You didn't join TJ's site did you? I don't know Kim, I think you dropped out just in time.

Oh, and your other post to me about how you posted in PRIVATE, to your "select" freind/s......woopdedoo...I didn't think the Nas would hold 5000, then I didn't think it would hold this...and that....and I think we MIGHT be headed for a recession, and I THINK we could move lower on the Nas on Monday...and you know what....I'll know a lot more about this week when it's over....I'll tell you what to look for on Monday.....Tuesday morning....OK?

You wrote...
"Wrong again. As early as two to three weeks ago, I told Brandon and a few others and all my clients that $COMP would fail the 4450 support on the third or fourth try. Although it's true that, until the past Monday, I didn't think Naz will visit the low 3000 this soon."

Clients?? These would be people you trade for?? Orrrr, they are doing their own trading and seeking out your advice?? Or, I guess they would be the folks you are doing the secondaries and IPO's for. Or is it your mom and dad, and your brothers or sisters, or your grandmom, or your uncle, or your old girlfreind from school that has to work and gave you some money to trade for her?

I guess my grandad would be my client since I trade his accounts for him?? He's not my client....he's my granddad.

It was fast wasn't it Kim?? You didn't even see it coming...and then it was gone. I actually hope you will continue to trade with us....but don't pump and dump us and don't lie to us. Open up a new account with SI under a different name and come on back and trade with us. It'll cost you about 200 bucks for lifetime membership....Let Kimberly Lee retire famous and still exist.

And again...if I am wrong....I'm really, really sorry. When you are kept in the dark....you sort of form your own opinions.

Greg