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To: Harvey Allen who wrote (51573)4/16/2000 4:26:00 AM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116856
 
Harvey, <<Anyone have a link to buying gold on the web?>>

Yes, as I recently asked that question.

Below I copied the replies that contain two easy to visit web sites,
and gold silver or platinum proof collector coins from US Mint.

I'am not the one for advice here, but ask what it means
to buy paper gold verses the physical stored off your site
or delivered to you site.

As of yet I have not bought any above precious metals,
but if I do I will take physical delivery of them in
the form of simple "bars" stamped only with 99.44%
pure and hopefully none float. That will be my hedge
for when either the moon falls from the sky or one of
those many many small and medium size nuke bombs that
the inventory says is in Building 4A, but not, does
appear up in the sky above NY City & Boston & ....

The coins with nice pictures I will buy one of each
as good luck charms and gifts to give.

The only requirement I have with the coins is that
they cost the same as the bar and represent a simple
store of value, not an investment like in art.

Those proof collector coins I would not buy in the hope
that later they increase in value above the store of value.

Didn't realize that there are platinum coins/bars
that you can buy. If so, what about Rodium and palladium ?

GOLD - $280
SILVER - $5
PLATINUM - $490
PALLADIUM - $570
RHODIUM - $1,650

Doug

From: Fred Ragan
Tuesday, April 11, 2000

ajpm.com

tulving.com

I have used both. Simple.

From: Bob Johnson
Tuesday, April 11, 2000

US Mint sells uncirculated bullion coins through distributors...

Check the ajpm.com site for bid/ask prices
on the most popular bullion coins.

Proof collector coins, including gold silver and platinum,
can be bought
directly online from the US Mint usmint.gov



To: Harvey Allen who wrote (51573)4/16/2000 11:14:00 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116856
 
I've sold alot of gold over the net and have publically stated same over the last several years, here and elsewhere. Why don't you Private Message me for insider tips, tricks of the trade, discussion of margins and markups, choices of gold's form available to you to purchase and advantages/disadvantages of each, etc. Maybe my candor will help you make a better decision than a hit or miss trial and error learning experience at the hands of others.

Good Investigating!
Ole 49r



To: Harvey Allen who wrote (51573)4/16/2000 8:53:00 PM
From: d:oug  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116856
 
Harvey, your <<buying gold on the web>> question got good results,
and among the answers I learned some new tings, for example,
I know less than I thought I did.

Mentioned was buying silver and gold, which to me sounds good as a way
to exchange a portion of cash in a bank protected with FDIC so that
even thought if the bank folded, the $dollars would be replaced
by Uncle Sam after the bank said "sorry, all gone", eventhought
no adjustment was made after a currency crash rendering a hyper inflation
effect that today's dollar have only a fraction of the buying power
as yesterdays dollar. So, that savings I removed from my bank
and exchanged for silver & gold to represent savings in the form of
that store of value silver & gold have associated with, that this savings
will counter/hedge the hyper inflation effect, as their buying power
increases, as the number of cans of beans I can buy for an oz of gold
is greater today than was yesterday, while the $1 paper dollar buys
less beans today than yesterday.

So above is my savings, not investment or speculation money.

Gold & silver to hedge against fiat paper money losing value or worth.

This I have not done actually, and even thought I am now temped to,
the issue of where is the physical silver and gold is a concern
to me as an unknowned. Would it be in a vault in some bank or other
storage building. How would I know its really there, and if so,
could I really have access to it and take delivery ? No more
bank like FDIC, and could end up with it not there or obtainable.

So I think I have done what you mentioned you may do,
buy stock in companies that mine these metals,
and if paper fiat currency crashes
and price of gold and silver explodes
then who has these metals rule.

From: Doug A K
Wednesday, April 12, 2000

... an interesting link there on how the shorts will not
get burned if the price explodes upwards and stays there.

Rent A Safe

... what will also matter is what form you bought it in.

If you bought silver in paper or certificate form,
and your counterparty can't honor the transaction
because they don't have real silver backing it up,
you will have a problem.

With billions of ounces of paper contracts
and bank certificates of silver outstanding,
I would imagine the vast majority to be a problem,
as there are not billions of ounces of real silver
backing them up.

Just this past week,
it was revealed that Handy & Harman,
the largest silver refiner in the world,
declared Chapter 11.....
... if you had physical silver on deposit with them,
you now have a problem.

... if one of the most respected names
in the precious metals world, Handy & Harman,
can announce out of the blue,
that it is bankrupt and cannot honor its obligations
- who can be trusted?

If the largest silver refiner can't meet its silver obligations,
do you think a bank or insurance company can?

In fact, the Handy & Harman bankruptcy will serve as the model
for the resolution of the great silver manipulation.

It's so simple.

Crooked shorts sell uneconomic quantities of silver that they
can't deliver on, driving down the price for years and years,
amassing obscene profits. Then, when the moment of truth arrives,
they declare bankruptcy and walk away from their obligations.

It is the perfect scam.

What can you do about it?

Hold your own silver.

Yeah, I know,
it's cumbersome
and logistically difficult
to deal in physical silver.

It's so much easier to make a phone call and own paper silver.

The irony of ironies is that silver is so cheap,
that you actually get too much for your money.

It's hard to handle the sheer bulk.

Life's tough.

But before you make the easy choice and make that phone call,
for paper silver, ask yourself this - if they had it to do over again,
would the silver creditors of Handy & Harman do it the easy way?

Ted Butler

April 4, 2000

info@butlerresearch.com

(off topic) - A way to store your own physical gold & silver at home.

Armor Safes - Yes, but there is a problem. = weight & size

If you checked out armored safes for the home
then you will notice that not only do they arrive
at your door step as a single piece
but heavy needed a dozen folks and equipment
and also a big wide door to enter
including the remaining doors to destination site.

Me, I like to be able to not only not have those problems,
and still obtain a first class armor safe, but after it is
placed into a place like a cellar, I want the ability to
move it to another location without having to call Superman.

zanottiarmorsafes.com

Zanotti Armor Safes have set new standards for gun safes.

Pound for pound, ZANOTTI ARMOR "INTERLOCKING" gun safes
are the strongest and highest quality on the market today!

The "INTERLOCKING" design enables the user
to easily move and install their safe anywhere!

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To: Harvey Allen who wrote (51573)3/22/2001 7:54:00 AM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116856
 
new monetary plan for the US? all, See their plan for use of Precious metals(PDF):
nesara.com
371.25 grains silver = $1