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To: Walter Morton who wrote (10567)4/21/2000 5:21:00 AM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
Walter, the microdrive information you posted here is inaccurate.

I vote that we forbid any further references to Iomega Clik! or IBM microdrive on the SI SanDisk Thread. We have provided ample evidence to support our claims that the microdrive is not a viable solution for digital photography, MP3 or portable (handheld) computing...

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Some of the information out there is bordering on false advertising. On second thought, I think the border has already been crossed.

Microdrive outclasses CompactFlash Hands Down...NOT!

"And it's cheaper. A 64MB CompactFlash card costs about $300, whereas the 340MB Microdrive is priced just under $400", Osterhout says. "MP3 players get a matchbook-sized storage device that holds the equivalent of a CD changer."

Funny, IBM's own site sells the microdrive for $449.00...

shopper.cnet.com

Meanwhile a 64 MB SanDisk CF card retails for $125.00 and a 128 MB card sells for $225.00

shopper.cnet.com
us.buy.com

Oh, Yeah. And they forgot to mention your I2Go is no longer portable once you plug in the microdrive. Maybe they should rename it i2-NO-Go...

i2go.com

"Need more than what you can currently get on a CompactFlash card? Try an IBM Microdrive! NOTE: Microdrives work with USB power or external power ONLY. These babies eat batteries for breakfast!"

Ausdauer
"SanDisk...In the end, the truth will prevail."



To: Walter Morton who wrote (10567)4/21/2000 5:42:00 AM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 60323
 
I plan to contact the CompactFlash Association.

The microdrive information Walter Morton posted here is inaccurate. The fact that it is a recent article (written last night) is reprehensible. Is this journalism or propaganda? I plan to contact the editor of the on-line magazine who published this piece and the CompactFlash Association. In fact, the CFA should be monitoring the Internet for misleading information such as this. Where does IBM get these figures? Where is the accountability for the accuracy of the information presented?

I vote that we forbid any further references to Iomega Clik! or IBM microdrive on the SI SanDisk Thread. We have provided ample evidence to support our claims that the microdrive is not a viable solution for digital photography, MP3 or portable (handheld) computing...

Message 13343555
Message 12925888
messages.yahoo.com
messages.yahoo.com

Some of the information out there is bordering on false advertising. On second thought, I think the border has already been crossed.

Microdrive outclasses CompactFlash Hands Down...NOT!

"And it's cheaper. A 64MB CompactFlash card costs about $300, whereas the 340MB Microdrive is priced just under $400", Osterhout says. "MP3 players get a matchbook-sized storage device that holds the equivalent of a CD changer."

Funny, IBM's own site sells the microdrive for $449.00...

shopper.cnet.com

Meanwhile a 64 MB SanDisk CF card retails for $125.00 and a 128 MB card sells for $225.00

shopper.cnet.com
us.buy.com

Oh, Yeah. And they forgot to mention your I2Go is no longer portable once you plug in the microdrive. Maybe they should rename it i2-NO-Go...

i2go.com

"Need more than what you can currently get on a CompactFlash card? Try an IBM Microdrive! NOTE: Microdrives work with USB power or external power ONLY. These babies eat batteries for breakfast!"

Ausdauer
"SanDisk...In the end, the truth will prevail."



To: Walter Morton who wrote (10567)4/21/2000 6:07:00 PM
From: Ausdauer  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 60323
 
The IBM microdrive

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My vigorous objections to the IBM marketing efforts relate not to SNDK, but to all members of the CFA who are selling CF and promoting the de facto standard. Some 44 companies are listed as CF manufacters. Inaccurate information hurts everyone and sets the whole CF movement backward.

My e-mails were not met with sympathetic replies.

Well, I guess the lesson is that anyone can twist facts to tailor them to their marketing efforts. I have received an e-mail indicating that IBM really didn't do anything wrong by listing inflated prices for CF in the piece Walter found. I was even reprimanded for posting inaccurate information here on SI...

There is only one supplier listed on all of the www.shopper.com portal that carries the microdrive. That site is IBM's site. The listed price is $449.00 on shopper.com, but when I went to IBM's web page it was actually listed at $379.00. I stand corrected.

commerce.www.ibm.com

I still take offense to the fact that a 64 MB CompactFlash is listed as costing $300.00 a pop. I found several different CF suppliers on www.shopper.com making cards in varying capacities that well undercut the $300.00 water mark that IBM implies...

The Kodak 64 MB CompactFlash Picture Card

$123.00


us.buy.com

Simple Technology's 96 MB CompactFlash

$190.00


us.buy.com

SanDisk 128MB CompactFlash

$225.00


us.buy.com

The other important point is that the i2GO is not portable with a microdrive plugged in.

I stand by everything I have said and make no apologies.

Ausdauer



To: Walter Morton who wrote (10567)4/22/2000 12:34:00 AM
From: Ausdauer  Respond to of 60323
 
Walter, I said...

"I still take offense to the fact that a 64 MB CompactFlash is listed as costing $300.00 a pop. I found several different CF suppliers on www.shopper.com making cards in varying capacities that well undercut the $300.00 water mark that IBM implies..."

There are 112 matches for the search word "compactflash" on www.shopper.com and 1 match for "microdrive" at the same site. I think it is clear that the CFA has accomplished one of its goals...an open standard where the market determines a fair market value for product.

Hats off to the CFA!

Supply and Demand are inverted now. In the upcoming quarters look for prices to start coming down further. I hope that SanDisk leads the way. CompactFlash is still "expensive". But if you think of it as the last roll of film you ever buy I would still consider it "priceless".

I bought a 128 MB CompactFlash card this morning after I posted to SI. At first I wasn't so sure about whether the Internet price was accurate on www.buy.com so I logged on and placed an order because they still had some ready to ship for this price.

The damage report is $224.95 + $5.45 for shipping. That calculates to $1.80/MB.

Ausdauer