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To: Neocon who wrote (78751)	4/23/2000 12:16:00 PM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

It's interesting that many people who are lefty when young will turn rightward when they get older. I can't think of a single instance of a young conservative turning liberal when older. Some say Goldwater turned liberal, but he never changed. He always had a libertarian streak that became more apparent as the fundamentalists gained prominence.

To: Neocon who wrote (78751)	4/23/2000 12:25:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

At the age of 5 I saw no proof of God, and I refused to continue to go to Sunday school. I've been to all manner of churches since, I've been to synagog, I've been to the Hindu temple- but no little voice have I heard (except my own). I've read a great many religious and philosophical works. Few make any sense to me- although some are very beautifully written, and appeal to me aesthetically (but not as anything other than literature). Buddhism interests me. I am learning more about it. If I become a Buddhist I'll let you know. I was a liberal when I was young- probably mostly as a result of upbringing. I became a radical liberal in college in may late teens. I became more conservative in my late 20's. I am now a libertarian- with a sense of social responsibility. I have changed my mind based on emotion (in my teens) and for pure self interest (in my 20's)- now I have a sense of communal self interest- because my children make me want a stable society (so I have been changed by parental obligation). In my children's interest my selfishness has both broadened and become diluted- and by becoming selfish for my children I can actually act in ways that seem unselfish. Perhaps When I am very old I will be able to classify this period of my life differently. But that's easiest to do looking back. Because when I was in my teens I could not see the emotion. ANd when I was in my 20's I could barely see the self interest. Now I can clearly see the effect of my children- but I cannot "think around" it- since it is who I am- but I know it is there and might be interfering with my reason- no way to tell that. It was a trick question I gave you. Every mind is closed to a certain extent. Every mind has made billions of thought choices, closed off one connection in favor of another- if we were completely open (imo) we would be unmoving blobs of jello- we would be paralyzed by every choice. Some of us KNOW we are limited, closed, and some of us don't. Does knowing that we are closed make us more open? I don't know. I think it might. But it's just a thought - I've no data. I prefer people who think that way- but it might just be a case of preferring what is like oneself.