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To: Daniel W. Koehler who wrote (3539)	4/24/2000 1:22:00 PM
From: MeDroogies	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13062

Actually, that's incorrect. Based on the current laws concerning immigration (regardless of whether we agree or disagree with the way they are), Elian's relatives have NO SAY in what is in his best interests because his father is still alive. While I agree with your sentiment, unfortunately the current laws don't differentiate between whether people live in totalitarian states or not. While Elian's welfare is more likely better in the US with his relatives (I think that is pretty clear), current laws don't account for the political status of any country in which surviving parents live. There are a number of similar, lower-profile, cases in which children have been sent to such places as Lebanon and Pakistan to be reunited with their parent(s). One VERY OVERLOOKED case recently had the Miami police, with the backing of the Mayor, enter a home and forcibly remove a child to return him to his father in Pakistan. This is the hypocrisy to which I refer. The current Cuban majority in Miami has seen fit to make the laws work for them when it suits them.

To: Daniel W. Koehler who wrote (3539)	5/3/2000 7:42:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13062

Wait a minute -- what rights did the Miami relatives have? They got temporary custody of Elian only because the INS gave it to them. What the INS gave, the INS can (and did) take away. Other than that, the Miami relatives had NO rights to speak for the child or ask for a day in court for him. Unless you believe that libertarian values include the right of cousins and great uncles to try to take a child away from his father if they don't like the political choices the father makes. Boy, would you step in a can of worms there! Do you really want relatives all over the world sueing to get children taken away from their parents? Fie on you. That's as un-libertarian a position as I can imagine. Our philosophy is live and let live. That gives Elian's father the right to live where and how he wants to. It's not a life style I would choose, but so what. In some ways it is healthier than the life style I, by choice, live. I like mine, but I'm not so arrogant at to believe it is the right life style for everybody. Let them choose for themselves and their children. That's the libertarian philsophy. On this thread, it should be respected.