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To: lorrie coey who wrote (79136)	4/28/2000 12:01:00 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

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To: lorrie coey who wrote (79136)	4/28/2000 12:22:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

What if Elian is comfortable with the way grandma interacts with him? Have you considered that? Because if he is, and he probably is, then his sovereignty is not at issue. Of course I don't believe in any natural law of sovereignty over one's own body. I personally hold with the theory that these "rights" devolve from the society you are born into. What is culturally agreed on is what you get- it's all an accident of birth. And if you were dropped alone on the Serengeti Plain you wouldn't get very far arguing with a lion that you had sovereignty over your own body and there fore Mr. Lion shouldn't eat you. Or it would be wrong to eat you. Or whatever. So with humans (just another animal, imo) your own species, you get the "rights" over your own body that your society agrees to. If you are born to a culture that believes children are chattel and can be sold as slaves- you have very few rights. If you are born in the US then you have many rights. But these "rights" aren't rights in any absolute sense. They are really only mores, imo.