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To: one_less who wrote (17879)	5/1/2000 11:51:00 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Ideally, you could come up with some way to measure teacher performance. Then you could start with a base pay of say $20,000. Pay above that should be structured so that the truly excellent teacher could earn 6 figures. The washouts would be encouraged to find work that suited them better. Hoping for the best is how we got where we're at now. pay them six figures, give them intellectual authority, and hope for the best.

To: one_less who wrote (17879)	5/1/2000 12:27:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

By the way, nor should we want our most talented graduates to be teaching third graders. If they teach, let them teach in colleges and universities. Let them become researchers, scholars, entrepeneurs, politicians, judges, military officers, and so on......

To: one_less who wrote (17879)	5/6/2000 6:41:00 PM
From: nihil	Respond to of 769667

Exactly my point. We put an ill-selected, badly trained, unmotivated bunch of C students in as teachers and are surprised that we get badly educated, unmotivated D students out. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, teach teachers. Those who can't teach teachers write teachers manuals for teachers who can't teach. All I ask is that we select from the top ten per cent a couple of million (less than one per cent of the population) teachers and pay them as well (based on performance) as we pay physicians, lawyers, and middle-level managers. It would help if they loved kids and were also expert in chemistry, math, physics, literature, history, music. Many of them should be Ph.D.'s or LCD's. All should have master's degrees in their academic fields. Most of them should have sabbaticals to practice or do research. THey should be engaged continually in assessment and curriculum reform. They should be scholars as well as teachers. Many of the existing teachers could be recycled, turned into systems engineers, accountants, or other unnecessary skilled workers.