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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (4335)5/5/2000 12:25:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
I have not given a reason why there should be no public property. That is merely one (your) interpretation. IMO I have given a reason why laws are needed to moderate between conflicting rights.

Of course I don't actually believe in rights in the Platonic or natural law, sense (and I seem to recall you do). I don't think there are rights just sitting out somewhere, waiting for people to realize they have them. It is my opinion that rights are what society agrees they are. The social contract theory. Because without a society and "enforcement" rights are meaningless. You can TELL a lion you have a right not to be eaten but it isn't going to listen. It takes a society of people willing to agree that you HAVE a right for the right to be a right. Otherwise it's your idea of what ought to be a right- and that's not worth much.

As for your strange and illogical jump to the nature of dispute resolution in socialist countries- I would merely say you are wrong. There are legal organs that settle disputes in communsit/socialist countries (without the use of weapons). They do not use guns "whenever" there is a dispute. It is this kind of over the top rhetoric that makes you seem such a simpleton.



To: The Barracuda™ who wrote (4335)5/5/2000 1:02:00 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9127
 
My curiosity has overtaken my exasperation.

Are you saying that we should have no public property, only private property, in order to facilitate the settling of conflicts over rights? Because all property is private, the owner of the property determines the rights (or is the arbiter of the rights) of whoever happens to be on that particular piece of turf?

Karen