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To: E who wrote (18303)	5/6/2000 10:58:00 AM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 769667

>Is that what you understood? If so, you seriously misunderstood. The history is much broader and richer in detail, and is there to be checked.< I must have misunderstood. Mea culpa.

To: E who wrote (18303)	5/7/2000 1:16:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 769667

My earlier post was too terse, and it left room for misinterpretation. Just so there can be no mistake, here is what I didn't say clearly enough the first time. The problem wasn't simply that PROLIFE posted established disinformation about abortion. I don't think anybody is stuck on that, really. But the problem as I see it was that he posted something so prima facie improbable that he was either being openly dishonest in promoting it, or simply not cognizant of the obvious problems with the information. (Or option 3; see below.) You were perfectly on target in exposing the gaping logical errors in the supposed facts being presented. What I was saying in a roundabout way is that I see a third way that someone can post obvious bullshit ... and be neither a liar nor a spec. ed. case. And since I have had disparaging insinuations sent my way about the supposed sparsity of my luxuriant gluteal foliage, OK then, gloves off: here it is. I have encountered intelligent, sincere people in my life who have embraced screamingly obvious bullshit logic, because the integrity of their belief system REQUIRES them to do so. These people appear to me to go into a sort of sustained dissociative state, a fugue, in which they do everything they can to avoid facing inconvenient hairlines (posed by rational thought and other tools of Satan) within their belief systems. So, in conclusion, a person can be advancing ridiculous "facts" and be neither 1) deliberately dishonest nor 2) clinically , uhm, "different" is the correct term I think. ...Just 3) in a sort of hysteria, I can't hear you, lalalaLALALA. Addicts do a similar thing. They're intelligent, they're honest, but they cultivate a sort of "I'm looking away so I'm not really doing this thing righht now" while filling a shot glass or wrapping the rubber tubing around the biceps. I really do wonder what an "abortion grinder" is. In West Virginia, is that a Cousinart?