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To: jim kelley who wrote (41811)5/9/2000 10:06:00 AM
From: Jdaasoc  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93625
 
jim:
I thought we were beyond these type of problems with incompatible RIMM pairings. Seems there is a problem with a 4 or 6 RDRAM devices in each channel at PC800 with OR840 board.

ftp://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/workstation/or840/24528806.pdf

GO TO pg 25

john



To: jim kelley who wrote (41811)5/9/2000 1:09:00 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93625
 
Congratulations another entry in the collection of clueless posts.

Here is what data I found following the link you provided:


32MB NVIDIA TNT2 (base)
NEW 32MB NVIDIA GeFroce + 90
NEW 64MB DDR NVIDIA GeFrorce Plus +330


Your conclusion:
Figure about $90 for 32 MB to $330 delta for a 64MB GEForce card over the regular Nvidia cards with same amounts of memory.

On most threads, this would stand on it's own, and just about anyone would conclude how clueless Jim Kelly is. But since it seems to me that this is a thread full of intellectually challenged individuals, here is a hint: These are 3 different cards, 3 different products, and there is no indication about the type of memory used in the 2nd product.

Joe



To: jim kelley who wrote (41811)5/9/2000 1:13:00 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 93625
 
Hi jim kelley; Re SDR and DDR prices for comparable products...

Actually, the pricewatch page pointed out by milo_morai underestimated the price difference between SDRA and DDR GeForce graphics cards. (Sorry I didn't catch it sooner.) Here is a more representative page, from BayAreaMicro:

computerhq.com

Asus Deluxe GeForce 256 SDR $281
Asus Deluxe GeForce 256 DDR $384

Asus Pure GeForce 256 SDR $215
Asus Pure GeForce 256 DDR $275

Elsa GeForce 256 SDR $217
Elsa GeForce 256 DDR $276

Guillemot Hercules 3D Prophet DDR-DVI $248
Guillemot Hercules 3D Prophet SDR $198

And, in fact, Guillemot suggests a $50 difference between its SDR and DDR GeForce cards:
guillemot.com

The $50 difference is not surprising, given the great press that the DDR boards have been picking up. Clearly the cost of the DDR chips is some part of that $50.

Assuming even a 50% CGS, the $50 difference would be $25 per card. Over four chips, the cost difference to the maker is around $6. Given that memory chips of this size generally sell for around $12, we get that DDR chips are selling for a price premium of around 50%. This is quite reasonably low, for a brand new technology, and my estimates are undoubtedly over estimates.

The website claims that they have Geforce2 boards, but I doubt it, it seems a bit early:

Elsa Erazor GeForce 2 32MB AGP Retail Box $399

A bunch more Geforce2 boards are "due in":

Asus V7700 Deluxe Geforce 2 32MB AGP $450
Asus V7700 Geforce 2 32MB AGP $399
Guillemot Hercules 3D Prophet II GTS 32MB $371
Leadtek Winfast Geforce2 GTS 32MB $371

-- Carl