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To: Krowbar who wrote (79450)5/15/2000 7:51:00 AM
From: Tom Clarke  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I thought maybe you meant no 'count know nothings, but was in a hurry.

I guess the trend is to the warm side, at least a lot of people keep saying it is. The adamantine tone of these people is where the suspicion lies. They never allow for solar variability in their equations. Suppose things are heating up, why is that necessarily a problem? Wouldn't we have longer growing seasons? That would help feed the world. And my house in western Connecticut would become beachfront property.

You're right, it should have nothing to do with politics, but of course it really has everything to do with politics. The Kyoto accords read like a leftist manifesto.

The planet has been getting warmer since the time of Hans Brinker and the Silver Skates. Brackish water hasn't had a hard freeze in Holland since the turn of the century. Human activity is most likely not the cause of the warming trend.



To: Krowbar who wrote (79450)5/15/2000 7:51:00 AM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
With scientists divided on the matter, and the need to make crucial trade- offs affecting industrial development and improvements in the global standard of living, it is necessarily a political matter....I do not know if you are old enough to recall, but about 25 years ago, the Club of Rome was engaging in scare propaganda about resource depletion, especially in petroleum, that have never materialized. Supposedly it was all a matter of science mandating belt tightening. In the case of petroleum, suddenly new reserves were identified in Alaska and the North Sea, and they came on line fairly rapidly. Now, it looks like the reserves in the Middle East were underestimated, and there are new reserves to develop around the Caspian, that may be even larger than in Arabia. Of course, in principle it must come to an end, but we do not really know when, and the scientific alarmism proved fatuous. Similar things occurred in other commodities, such as bauxite. To me, that was a great lesson in skepticism......