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To: 5dave22 who wrote (111412)	5/17/2000 9:06:00 PM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1583681

Dave, re:rambust and iNteL You haven't been over at AceHardware yet? aceshardware.com Just like Jerry promised to buy back mobos, looks like the DRAM producers want a sure thing from iNteL. steve

To: 5dave22 who wrote (111412)	5/17/2000 9:14:00 PM
From: chic_hearne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583681

http://www.ebnews.com/story/OEG20000505S0065 I love this quote!! In a conference call with analysts last month, Intel senior vice president Paul Otellini, who is also co-head of the newly created Intel Architecture Group, reiterated the company's commitment to the Direct RDRAM interface. ?In the desktop, it's all Rambus memory, at least for the foreseeable future,? Otellini said. The more this Otellini guy sticks his foot in his mouth, the more I like the guy. When he's out of work in a year, he can ride around in my limo any time!! I have a few questions for you processor guys 1) Was Willamette designed with RAMBUST in mind? 2) If it was, will it suffer in performance by changing to a different memory platform (by how much)? 3) How big a deal for all parties involved would it be to change memory platforms? 4) Assuming Intel has a different memory design ready today, how long to get it implemented in volume? 5) Is there a way to go with different memory besides going with a MTH solution? The reason I'm asking is because I think it's inevitable that Intel will switch. I can't believe management will be that stupid to keep pushing forward. This whole RAMBUST fiasco has to come to an end sometime Thanks in advance to those of you that are more capable than me of answering these tough questions. I think I speak for all of us, we greatly appreciate it. chic

To: 5dave22 who wrote (111412)	5/18/2000 2:26:00 AM
From: Petz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1583681

Dave, MUCH THANKS for posting that EBN Rambus expose. It confirms that Intel will use "PC600" RAMWagon memory for Willy. (Its not really RamBUS, because its slower than a wagon (533 MHz, 16 bits = zero advantage over PC133, 64 bits). Also, wagons often hold a pile of cr*p, which describes RAMWagon perfectly. "...the company is hedging its bets by adding support for cheaper, higher-yield PC600 Direct RDRAM to certain Willamette chipsets" I liked this quote from Samsung: "only 20% of Rambus chips now shipping are binned out at 800 MHz. ?And that's a factor of yields,? Eminian said." If its that bad for Samsung, Micron and other RAMBUS makers must have even worse "binsplits." Petz