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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Yogizuna who wrote (5684)	5/18/2000 3:04:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

Yogi, You're right-- it was not a kidnapping case. But the wording you use is troubling --they gave Juan-Miguel the opportunity to see his son if he wanted to Who were they to withhold Juan's son from him at all? HE was not some distant relative, but the boy's father for six years. Why did they feel they could make the rules that governed his seeing his son? ANd that man in the closet holding Elian was not family, nor was the photographer, so handily close by. Nor all those people surrounding the house.

To: Yogizuna who wrote (5684)	5/18/2000 6:10:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

These were not some strangers holding his son, they are family They were still holding his child against his will, and their being family might only make it worse. If a set of wealthy cousins decided to appropriate your child, to give him a better life of course, would they be entitled to do it? Would you want to drop by for a casual visit, especially if it seemed likely to be turned into a media circus? you find nothing wrong with government agents threatening to "blow away" decent people... I didn't say that, as anyone so offended by "going forward" should have immediately noticed. I think the force level in the raid was probably excessive, though I'm not sure I'd want to second-guess the judgment of the law enforcement officer on the spot. There had certainly been serious suggestions that there would be resistance, and I am aware that the trend in law enforcement is toward what they call "overwhelming force", simply because an appearance of weakness or lack of resolve has been found to encourage resistance. However, there is no doubt in my mind that the forced removal of the boy was warranted. If the Miami relatives had done the right thing and sent the child back to his father - as any normal person who came into accidental custody of a child would do at the first request - the whole thing would not have been necessary.