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To: Bilow who wrote (42709)	5/22/2000 3:19:00 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 93625

Hi all; Interesting editorial just published on DDR vs RDRAM, concentrating on the politics: Introduction There are three major areas of contention between these two memory systems: The technical aspects The production/cost aspects The political aspects With the exceptions of very low-end PCs and servers, technical factors are the least important in determining which memory system will win out. For the average desktop, there is no killer technical benefit or flaw to favor one over the other; there are only advantages and disadvantages. The production/cost aspects are more important, but those are and will be heavily influenced by the political aspects. The political aspects are by far the most powerful factors in determining which will be the next memory standard for PCs, or if there will be one. ... overclockers.com -- Carl

To: Bilow who wrote (42709)	5/22/2000 7:03:00 AM
From: John Walliker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Carl, Are you really suggesting that an RDRAM heat spreader temperature of 37C is a problem? At human body temperature it will not even feel hot to the touch. As for drawing any conclusions from the SDRAM running 3 deg C cooler, I don't think that is possible. You pointed out that the ambient temperature was not quoted, so concluding anything about relative power consumptions is impossible. Another point is that the thermistor was relatively large and had fairly thick connecting wires. The thermal loading due to the thermistor will have had a greater effect on the SDRAM plastic package than on the aluminium heat spreader, so causing a larger under-reading for the SDRAM than the DRDRAM. Measuring device temperatures in this kind of situation is not straightforward. John

To: Bilow who wrote (42709)	5/22/2000 10:13:00 AM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Carl, You have gone off the edge again using an unconfirmed and certainly uncontrolled temperature measurement experiment to impugn the motives of both RAMBUS and DRAMREVIEW. Simply put, by extension you are calling everyone including Samsung and Micron liars because of Anand's temperature test. They also have published on power consumption data that does not agree with you. You belong on the Yahoo board. <G>