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To: epicure who wrote (79657)5/23/2000 2:04:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte  Respond to of 108807
 
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Is God dead??



To: epicure who wrote (79657)5/23/2000 2:21:00 PM
From: Neocon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Ah, but X, the secret is that God has done the one thing that would have seemed beyond him, he has experienced our deepest misery, in the awesome cry:"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?". Greater love hath no one than this, to give his life for his fellows. It is the ultimate demonstration of love and solidarity with humankind....

As for the injustice in skating, well, Roman Catholics, most Orthodox, and some Anglicans believe in Purgatory, so that one does not skate entirely. But the idea of vicariousness atonement is this: you have to pay for your sin in some measure. Thus, for example, one could make a sin offering in the temple, sacrificing a bird, say, and thus not get off scot free. In this case, God has staked one to the sacrifice, made it on your behalf, but you still have to accept it and live a devout life to gain it. Thus, the full rigor of justice is not imposed, but one does not merely skate........



To: epicure who wrote (79657)5/23/2000 6:10:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Since the whole idea of original sin depends on God's imposition of Adam's sin on everybody else, the idea of retributive justice seems a bit off to begin with.

I quit Christianity at the age of 12 over the original sin issue. I had a rather overdeveloped sense of fairness, as kids that age often do, and figured that any God who would blame one person for the acts of another didn't deserve my worship.