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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Yogizuna who wrote (6114)	5/23/2000 9:02:00 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

Yogi, Yogi, Yogi- you reek of emotion- >Rambi, I am not emotional about it at all. The plain hard cold fact is, I am very ashamed *Shame is emotional- it's something you FEEL, it's not rational.* to be an American at this point in time, but please don't tell anyone, O.K.? In my opinion, your field of experience is great for use in countries where the parents can be parents, but your refusal to accept Cuba for what it is now < Ah EMOTION blinds you here- just because she doesn't agree with Yogi doesn't mean she doesn't "accept Cuba for what it is now"- whatever that is. You think you understand Cuba. You are SURE of this. Even though you've never been there. You BELIEVE this. It's clearly a deeply held quasi religious thing for you full of emotion. and how it rips the child/parent relationship into shreds much of the time. So he does'nt have to be an American Rambi, let them go live in Spain with Castro's daughter this is just a nutty thing to say, at least that is far better than being a child prisoner child prisoner? are ALL children in Cuba "child prisoners"? I think this would be news to some of those kids. Goodness I can cut the emotion in this post with a knife in Cuba. Yogi It's not easy being a pot is it?

To: Yogizuna who wrote (6114)	5/23/2000 11:10:00 PM
From: Dayuhan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

What do you know, really, of day to day life in Cuba? What the propagandists tell you? Do you really believe them?

To: Yogizuna who wrote (6114)	5/23/2000 11:32:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

In my opinion, your field of experience is great for use in countries where the parents can be parents. Yogi, this statement just doesn't make sense--- what children need is universal. Elian HAS, to this point, had a fairly normal childhood with caring parents. Juan has been Elian's parent even by American definition. Elian has been raised as a part of a loving family with an involved extended family. He had a mother and a father who loved him and gave him the feeling of acceptance and value children need. I am not addressing what lies in the future for Elian, nor am I waxing philosophically about political theories. I am talking about what any six year old child who has lost his mother and gone through the trauma that was Miami most needs- and that is his father. Children the world over, in all societies, have the same basic needs. Well, we're right back at the same old same old. YOU think it's ok to tear apart this parental relationship because it won't measure up to your ideas of what it should be idealistically, and I don't think it's ok at all. That you are ashamed to be an American is sad. We may disagree, we may disapprove, we may get angry and try to change things, but ashamed? America is a great country. The very system that grants us the freedom and space for things to happen that we find objectionable,even wrong, is the very same system that gives us the opportunity to question and change and grow.