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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dayuhan who wrote (6119)	5/23/2000 9:08:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 9127

I don't know how you respond to defiance of the law if not by force. If someone robs a bank (for example) I think most of us would want the government (police, FBI) to use force to apprehend the criminals. The only reason this case is murky is because some people think these people had a right to defy the law. It's not unique- lots of people THINK they have a right to defy the law. The only way you know for SURE whether you had that "right" is how things go down in a historical context- whether popular opinion gloms onto your case...or not. If things go agin' you then you didn't have the "right". It's a risky business defying the law.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (6119)	5/23/2000 9:10:00 PM
From: nealm	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

The combination of surprise and overwhelming force is used because it has, in practice, been found to preempt resistance and avoid situations where bloodshed can occur on both sides. It's not pretty, but it works. Prove it. It's only been shown to intimidate law abiding citizens. Guns are for killing NOT brandishing.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (6119)	5/25/2000 6:32:00 PM
From: Yogizuna	Respond to of 9127

Yes, I "remember" those unpleasant, and in many cases, unjustified things..... We were "supposed" to be living in more "enlightened" times now though, but the trend now says otherwise. All should be concerned, not just those who want freedom for Elian. And I would say that a "jackbooted thug" pointing a machine gun at one of Elian's saviors and threatening to blow him away while he was extremely close to the boy is a relatively "new thing", and a new low for government law enforcement in modern times. Also government employees beating up cameraman, where have you heard that one before in modern times? I can't seem to remember anything like this, so I still disagree with you on this case. Yogi