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Politics : About that Cuban boy, Elian -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (6381)	5/26/2000 3:46:00 PM
From: nealm	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 9127

The only "bad choice" these children made was being born to parents already entrenched, and their "freedom to get out" is an elusive dream at best There are plenty of examples of poor folks making it in this country, including immigrants who arrive here with nothing at all. Our system can only strive to make those doors of opportunity open. It's still up to each and every individual to use their mind, body, and soul to get through those doors. In Cuba, Elian's sole function will be to prolong and enhance the rule of Fidel Castro and his discredited system of government.

To: Rambi who wrote (6381)	5/26/2000 4:12:00 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

There are some who have never even left the physical barriers of their neighborhoods. Rambi, I think you are correct that kids born into the lower stratum get stuck there. But I can't explain it away so easily. While, as you say, there are some who have been physically confined to their neighborhoods, that no longer means what it once did. Even kids in the projects have televisions. They can see how people in better circumstances talk and act and the difference in values. It's not like they don't know any better. I know. It's hard to convert that knowledge into action given their circumstances and there are tons of obstacles, I don't blame the ones who fail. But if, by watching TV, people know what they have to do, I'd think a better percentage would find a way to make it happen. I'd appreciate your thoughts. Karen

To: Rambi who wrote (6381)	5/26/2000 4:51:00 PM
From: Yogizuna	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9127

No Rambi, I am afraid that you are "brainwashed" in your own way, and my statement was not "innacurate". For your information, I had friends in the projects, and many of them got out and moved on to better things. Yes, of course there are some that never made it out of their ghetto neighborhoods, just as there are some that never made it out of their lower middle class neighborhoods. No "man-made" system on this earth is perfect, but America has been the land of relative freedom and opportunity for quite some time now, and you simply cannot compare it to Castro's brutal dictatorship no matter how much you may try. And even the "poorest of our poor" in big city ghettos, are much better off than the poor in Cuba, as bad as our "underbelly" is..... Remember that some people simply cannot take "the shackles" of freedom, and only want so-called "security", at the cost of everyone else's freedom and free will of course. Yogi

To: Rambi who wrote (6381)	5/26/2000 5:15:00 PM
From: Master (Hijacked)	Respond to of 9127

Rambi, You must forgive Yogi for he is an unemployed idealist who views the world through those sociology "how-to" manuals. He has never set foot outside his little 1 bedroom basement apartment and as such has never experienced the difficulties that average folks here in America live through everyday. He watches soap operas on his old black & white and thinks that all Americans are free to balade anywhere they want. He's never been to a nearby food shelter to tell those folks that they should be grateful to America because they are free. He's also never experienced what it means to be in a loving family where a son would prefer to struggle and live through hardship near his mother rather than live alone surrounded by riches a thousand miles away. Vince