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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (114608)	6/6/2000 1:40:00 PM
From: Steve Porter	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572946

Jim, Maybe so but I found it a little odd that Gateway was offering "Select" models with all thunderbirds except the 1000 Mhz model which is still a K75 core. Could it be that gateway has a little inventory overhang on the 1ghz athlons? Maybe AMD wants to get rid of their 1ghz k75s. Many possibilities there. Steve

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (114608)	6/6/2000 1:45:00 PM
From: bruce rogers	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1572946

Here's why athlons are stuck at 1GHZ: www1.amd.com Note that the newly approved MSI socket A board is only good to 900mhz. If slot A can only go to 1050mhz and socket A boards are shaky above 900mhz (also explains gateway's lack of 1ghz tbird - are they using socketed motherboards?) then AMD can't launch faster parts until they get socket A motherboards that can handle it. -b

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (114608)	6/6/2000 1:52:00 PM
From: Pravin Kamdar	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572946

Jim, I am not totally convinced that Dresden bin splits are as good as classic athlon. The cache yield issue still worries me. AMD has stated that Dresden yields are as good or better than Austin yields. Technically, this only means that enhanced Athlon yields in Dresden are as good or better than enhanced Athlon yields in Austin. It doesn't say anything about enhanced Athlon in Dresden versus classic in Austin, since Dresden is not making classic Athlon for a comparison. The high pricing of Tbird and, as you point out, the Gateway 1G system may also be indicators. I'm just a little paranoid because I have a lot riding on this baby. The concrete positives far outweigh the speculative negatives, though. Pravin.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (114608)	6/6/2000 2:36:00 PM
From: crazyoldman	Respond to of 1572946

Hello Jim, Re: Maybe so but I found it a little odd that Gateway was offering "Select" models with all thunderbirds except the 1000 Mhz model which is still a K75 core. This could suggest that the speed binning for T-bird isn't quite up to par yet. It could also suggest that a "special" Athlon will reside in the 1000 MHz Select model. Perhaps even higher speeds coming soon. Kindest regards, CrazyMan