To: Lane3 who wrote (7164 ) 6/8/2000 8:52:00 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9127
Ah, ok, that's clear - 'that can be used to introduce only restrictive clauses' .... i'll study this more, never did before, just parrot stuff heard ... fwiw, i would rewrite the sentence 'The students that study most usually do the best' into 'Students who study most usually do best', avoiding both the 'the's and the witchy 'that' question ... not just because you've scared me, but because briefer is better ... 'short saxon words', as Churchill says ... after all that, it may amuse you to hear that i spend considerable unpaid time teaching english -g- Speaking of which [and relevant to the border discussion] - "'Mexico Is America's Nemesis' By JOHN ZAVESKY Nikita Khrushchev once claimed the United States would be taken over by the Soviet Union. He was half right. The Soviet Union has crumbled, but America is being taken over by a foreign country: Mexico. The United States' sovereign borders are violated as hundreds of illegal Mexican immigrants enter this country on a daily basis. There are demands by a group of people who have absolutely no interest in integrating into American society that public school classes be taught in Spanish. Spanish-language television and radio stations abound. And now, the United States is playing host to Mexican presidential candidates. Some may call my reaction to such matters alarmist or racist. Since when has caring for one's country been considered alarmist? The term "racist" has become the equivalent of being labeled a Red in the 1950s, an easy means with which to immediately convict a person who does not agree with the accusing party's agenda. There was a time when people immigrating to the United States came here wanting to be Americans. That sentiment is now a virtual anathema to present-day thought. The very idea that this country should have an official language is considered a violation of civil rights in some circles. Large numbers of immigrants have lived here for decades and enjoyed the freedoms and standard of living America has offered without ever bothering to learn English or seek citizenship. Recently, Mexico sent hundreds of books to Los Angeles city schools. The books are written in Spanish and depict Mexican history. Like Greeks bearing gifts, this is nothing more than a blatant attempt to shape the minds of the young. What better way to indoctrinate than to start with the youngest and most impressionable? Why do some people not wish to have students taught in English, the dominant language of the host country? If an American child were to attend school in Mexico, he or she would be taught in Spanish. The surest way to destroy a culture is to take away its language or at the very least to denigrate its importance. The Mexican presidential candidates campaigning in California are here first to convince a Mexican constituency living abroad to influence the folks back home to vote for them, and secondly to pressure American politicians to make Mexico's needs a priority on their agendas. What other foreign country has presidential candidates campaigning in the United States? The argument frequently put forth that Mexico is only taking back what it lost to the United States is downright laughable. There is very little real estate anywhere on the face of this planet that the original peoples control. For Mexicans to claim that the Southwest belongs to them and that they are entitled to reparations is like saying present-day Italians owe reparations to the Carthaginians. America's decline is similar to that of ancient Rome. It is a country being lost through corruption from within and foreign forces crashing its gates. - - - John Zavesky Is a Freelance Writer in Los Angeles "latimes.com Posted without comment ... except - "foreign forces "?? .. lol In re the church and birth control - On none, absolutely none, of the group of mexicanas friends of my wife, does the church have any influence over birth control ... we've talked about this at length, as i consider population as much of a threat as does Tazio ... none of these young ladies feel the church prohibition to apply to them specifically [or something, i don't know, they all profess some degree of faith, some of them quite strong, though i notice that precious few actually go to mass, lol ... but they consider themselves quite catholic, and yet feel free to use birth control ... within marriage, as a family planning measure, of course] ... and they all want fewer children than their mothers had ... also, the only priest i ever knew well would quickly mumble the Vatican party line at this information, and then pass on directly to subjects he considered more important ... so it's not like it's a big monolithic thing, the church ... in my experience ... of course it has been in the past, and still is in some places ... much later ... cheers, all