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To: Daniel Blejer who wrote (115294)	6/10/2000 1:01:00 PM
From: Joe NYC	Respond to of 1572060

Daniel, Re: Athlon motherboards I have not researched the issue, but I seem to recall from reading the hardware sites that Abit Athlon motherboards were very good. Joe

To: Daniel Blejer who wrote (115294)	6/10/2000 1:06:00 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572060

Re: Would you (or anybody else!) recommend a different motherboard? The only boards I've used are the MSI 6167 and 6195(K7PRO). We've ordered many systems with these boards. They are running NT or Windows 2000 with various network cards, SCSI controllers, etc. They've all been rock solid. I'm currently looking hard at the Abit KA7 because we need to support more than 768 meg of DRAM in some applicaitions. I'll post impressions if I get any systems in based upon that board. The only hardware issue I've run into to date (on the MSI K7PRO) is the ROM based configuration program on DPT's PM1564U3 hardware 3 channel Ultra 160 RAID controller - the configuration program must be run from floppy instead of ROM. They are working on an update (it may even be out now). Regardless, the controller performs flawlessly on a server with 5 18 gig IBM drives configured as RAID 5 and an HP 6 tape internal autoloader (that backs up 3 other servers in addition to this one using Arcserve Enterprise). We have a number of workstations using this board as well. None have had any problems at all with either NT4 or Windows 2000. We run MS Office, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++ Builder, Adobe Illustrator, Adobe Acrobat (to create pdf files), Arc Info, Arcview, Mapinfo, Mapobjects, GAMS (General Algebraic Modeling System), SylvanMaps, SQL Sever, Installshield PRO, RoboHelp Office, and others. Peripherals connected to these systems include HPs Office jet combo scanner/printer/copier and HP sheetfeed scanners, Sony tape drives, various DVD Roms, CD Roms and CD recorders. No problems with any of this software or hardware. We moved to Win 2K earlier than some others, and have often had to download drivers for various components, but the K7PRO has not been a problem. I should say the only video cards we've been using have been Matrox G400 16 and 32 meg, single and dual head. The VAR who puts together these systems for us says that some DIMMs don't work with Athlons, so be sure you get Athlon compatible SDRAM. Other than that there doesn't seem to be much to worry about, and from what I've read the ASUS board is just as good. Regards, Dan

To: Daniel Blejer who wrote (115294)	6/10/2000 2:41:00 PM
From: crazyoldman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572060

Hello Daniel, I haven't welcomed you to the thread. WELCOME!!! Re: I need to upgrade my k62-300. You mentioned that the best choice (vis-a-vis the L2 speed) was an Athlon 700. (I can't wait for the Duron, my system is dead!). What motherboard choice is better, an EPOX w/Kx133 chipset or an ASUS K7M w/AMD751 chipset (or the ASUS K7V)? Would you (or anybody else!) recommend a different motherboard? Well, Murphy (of Murphy's law) is at it again..."I can't wait for the Duron, my system is dead!". The TBird/Duron platform will be cheaper and better and will soon hit the DIY market. Murphy sure knew what he was talking about!!! My personal experience is limited to the ASUS K7M and I've had excellent results with this board in terms of quality, performance, and stability. It's a very good board, arguably the best of the first generation Athlon boards. I've used this board with both WIN98 and NT4.0 SP6 Server. I'm was really surprised at the increased performance I got from the Athlon 700 MHz server, I wasn't expecting the performance increase I got. I've also had opportunity to use the 700's on the K7M's as network clients and even some gaming using the Matrox G400 Max video and MX300 Aureal sound card. No problem running FS98, FS2000, Unreal (any), Desent 3, Grim Fandango, Half Life, and the CPU/Video has the power to turn all options "on". For work or play the Athlon 700 and K7M has been nothing but a winning combination (and...no I don't sell ASUS or AMD or anything else, just reporting my experience). My general impression of the EPOX KX133 is that it probably has less stability, though some boards don't display this instability and some do. I never used it...just what I've gleened from others. If I was going to KX133 (slightly faster but not noticably so) it would be the K7V I'd look at first, ASUS's reputation for quality and stability was confirmed by my experience with the K7M. I've heard talk that the K7V with possible BIOS upgrade will function with the new TBird. Steve Harris recently put together a K7V 700 system and knows more than I about that board. Hope this helps some, let me know what you decide, I'm interested. Good luk with your decision. Kindest regards, CrazyMan