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To: Bilow who wrote (44046)	6/11/2000 5:16:00 AM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 93625

Hi all; Pictures of the ALi DDR motherboard (mockup) from Taiwan: 210.155.140.15 The above appears to be a Thunderbird (enhanced cache Athlon), with 3 DDR DIMMs, to 266MHz. Looks to be in a form factor sufficient to manufacture. Sweet looking card, apparently a mock-up. The photo is from an article where ALi is (allegedly) interviewed here: com-path.ne.jp Alleged translation is currently on the top of the list at aceshardware: Super7 Mr. Wu thinks that Aladdin 7 will be the company's final Super 7 chipset. Aladdin 7 features integrated graphics, but doesn't support a motherboard L2/L3 cache. So far, there has been minimal demand for Aladdin 7. Most OEMs building systems with the Aladdin V chipset aren't planning to deliver any new models based on the K6/Super-7. Athlon Aladdin K7 will be ALi's first Athlon chipset. It consists of the M1647 northbridge, which supports AGP4x andPC266/PC133/PC100 DDR SDRAM. The chipset also has potential for mobile markets, since the M1647 features mobile functions and can be used with ALi's existing southbridges. ALi is planning an Athlon chipset with integrated video, ethernet, and firewire, to be announced during the third-quarter. DDR SDRAM/Rambus ALi is looking to produce P6 chipsets supporting DDR SDRAM, but they will initially only support it on the Athlon platform (Aladdin K7). ALi has a license for Rambus Direct DRAM, but DDR SDRAM is a higher priority at the moment. Willamette ALi plans to support the Willamette (Pentium IV) platform once it spreads to the consumer level, which means sometime during the second half of next year at the earliest. Is this wild or what? ALi will develop a Willamette chipset, and according to Mr. Wu, they believe they will have a Willamette license by that time. Other Mr. Wu says that ALi has no plans to deliver mobile TNT2 chips because the TNT2 is not suitable for mobile systems, though performance is good. On the other hand, he says the ArtX core is suitable for mobile applications. Ali doesn't plan to deliver highly integrated chipsets for products like Timna. aceshardware.com Thread readers probably know that I don't like to put a lot of faith in foreign language articles, but ALi and Computex are both in Taiwan, and pictures are included. Another photo, and article, same card: watch.impress.co.jp watch.impress.co.jp -- Carl

To: Bilow who wrote (44046)	6/15/2000 2:06:00 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 93625

Hi all; DDR to hit 3x RDRAM system bandwidth by 1 year from now: Hyundai, the company that has probably shipped the most DDR to date, is designing 600MHz 4Mx32 DDR, with plans for manufacturing in 1H01. Two of these chips would make a 32MByte x64 main memory with a bandwidth of 4.8GB/sec, three times that of PC800 RDRAM. The parts are undoubtedly targeted at the graphics accelerator market. viatech.com (page 2) They plan on shipping 400MHz parts in 2H00, and are currently processing wafers for engineering samples. Rumors abound that the new 3D graphics accelerators will move to these parts as soon as they can get them. This shows that DDR has legs, and that the memory makers are pushing it faster than expected. Hyundai expects to get DDR system bandwidths to 9.6GB/sec, six times faster than an i820, or three times faster than an i840 by 2001: (see page 3) RDRAM is obsolete. -- Carl The longs will find it almost irresistible to ignore this post completely. The reason is that having RDRAM bandwidth beat by 3x in the first half of 2001 is too much for them to bear. They're married to the stock, and their blinders will turn on, and force them to talk about something else.