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To: mozek who wrote (46417)	6/11/2000 2:55:00 PM
From: mozek	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 74651

Bill Neukom interview on the plan to appeal: zdnet.com

To: mozek who wrote (46417)	6/11/2000 3:01:00 PM
From: Charles Tutt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74651

There is clearly a balance to be struck. On the one hand is a completely open free-for-all in which anybody can do anything they like and call it Java, hopelessly dividing the effort and dissipating its momentum; that seems to be Microsoft's preference and yours, if I correctly read what you have written. On the other hand is an open effort, but one with rules meant to keep Java from fragmenting; that's what Sun has been striving for. You can argue Sun has maintained too much control or too little, but the devil is in the details, so the conclusory statements you've made don't suffice to support your position. There is no "overwhelming number of statements by impartial standards bodies, the few unafraid licensees, and numerous observers that Sun is the single company who controls the Java language and right to use the name." There have been a few implications that the balance of control should be shifted further away from Sun, by standards bodies that would benefit from such a shift and by other interested parties who would themselves like to exercise more control. But any thoughtful analysis will result in the conclusion that there needs to be some overseer of the process and that Sun is a credible candidate for that position. JMHO.

To: mozek who wrote (46417)	6/13/2000 2:22:00 AM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

Sun is the single company who controls the Java language and right to use the name. No, Sun has veto power and they don't throw away excellent ideas. As for controlling the name, would you feel better if they changed the name to POS and then let anybody adopt it? It's a trademark name, there's nothing wrong with that. Look, this isn't about Sun's open process for developing a new software environment, we're talking about Microsoft's completely closed systems. If there's a viable open technology, Microsoft will destroy it by creating a vastly inferior but highly proprietary version.