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To: Mani1 who wrote (115843)	6/14/2000 3:52:00 AM
From: Mani1	Respond to of 1578288

AMD and design tools, interesting, techweb.com Mani

To: Mani1 who wrote (115843)	6/14/2000 4:11:00 AM
From: ptanner	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578288

Re: "Those from their new Dresden, Germany, fab have some problems." I saw a similar reference over on RB. The article on RB contains this sentence but the original source over at EETimes doesn't. "Bad News": ragingbull.com cited as from here: eet.com I wonder what the "truth" to this one is and hope it is clarified before some dead fish gets excited. PT

To: Mani1 who wrote (115843)	6/14/2000 11:28:00 AM
From: Goutam	Respond to of 1578288

Mani, < First the bad, "The CPUs that AMD fabbed out of their Austin, Texas, plant run OK," said one industry insider. "Those from their new Dresden, Germany, fab have some problems." > I don't like this kind of statements - without any reference to the actual source (or at least with a qualification that the source was declined to be named, etc) and without any specifics of the problem. It was like the Anand's (the kid with exceptional benchmarking and web skills, that thinks he is an engineer with varied specializations) report about KT133 presumed to be having some problems that garnered so much discussion on this board. We are dealing with high speed territory (~1GHZ and more) and I believe some of these guys existing skills are not up to par to deal with these high speeds. Until they learn proper methods (designing PC boards for high speed, high speed power distribution, and layout), they try things they already know or try to cut corners in their design. And, when they fail they usually are quick to blame the chips rather than examining their techniques. Goutama