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To: Neocon who wrote (81877)6/16/2000 7:55:00 AM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
I quite agree that proportionality is necessary. I just don't see why the gravest level in the chain of proportionality must be death. I don't think that moving the gravest level from death to life imprisonment should disrupt the basic principle of proportionality any more than moving the gravest level from hanging, drawing, and quartering to simple execution did.

I argued that we begin with the premise that it is fitting, and then work from there.

I find this premise impossible to accept. I would prefer the conservative position that the State should kill its citizens only when it is necessary for it to do so. I would say that those who want the State to kill are the ones who should have to demonstrate that the killing in question is necessary or desirable.



To: Neocon who wrote (81877)6/16/2000 11:07:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
We begin by presuming it is fitting? I see no reason for that.