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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (905)6/21/2000 7:15:00 PM
From: 16yearcycle  Respond to of 57684
 
did you get the report on Virata? Let me know, I have it.



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (905)6/21/2000 7:53:00 PM
From: 16yearcycle  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57684
 
I don't know if he has it right but it's worth a look:

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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (905)6/21/2000 8:24:00 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 57684
 
Any of you new economy enthusiasts see this item? Any thoughts?

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To: Bill Harmond who wrote (905)6/22/2000 11:39:00 AM
From: Wizard  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 57684
 
I've been hearing Commerce One is being heavily shorted on the rationale that the Appnet acquisition is a sign of trouble that will come up later. Perhaps the thinking is that Oracle et al have beaten CMRC because of their one-stop, deep resources to get these exchanges up and running and CMRC needs to respond.

Another short argument is that Ariba's model of less transaction pricing and more software subscriptions is the better one.

Final argument is that Appnet slows the growth rate quite a bit.

I am long a ton of Ariba and own October calls on CMRC. Price Waterhouse is committed to getting 2000 bodies trained for Commerce One projects. My opinion is that CMRC is loaded with so much business, it did the acquisition to respond to what customers wanted. Too much demand is not a negative, in my opinion.

My thought is, Ariba is the franchise in the space but business is so robust in B2B, a quality #2 player is an attractive long as well. Buying the October calls gets you a cheap look at 2 earnings reports and if that doesn't get CMRC going, I won't want to be long CMRC anyway.

By the way, I would rethink Amazon if you haven't already, I am short AMZN, long WBVN.

What are your favorites here?



To: Bill Harmond who wrote (905)6/25/2000 7:52:00 PM
From: Victor Lazlo  Respond to of 57684
 
William, so how much $$ have you lost with your stubborness with amzn? It is really in the pits now.

Are you still in it?
Victor