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To: Paul Engel who wrote (104916)	6/26/2000 7:55:00 PM
From: bhagavathi	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul, Any idea how fast a 733 MHz ITaninum will do an on-the-fly Secure Sockets Layer encoding/decoding functions for 128/256 bit security levels? Why don't you go back and study the Server and Workstation markets before you make further incorrect and simplistic estimate of the ITanium performance. Excellent point. This is where other 64 bit cpus are worried about IA64. Also where did they get the info that early silicon of IA64 was running at 500 mhz? Did they verify the story or the sources? Also the current hot companies targeted to be acquired seems to be companies doing encryption chips. Do you know of any of them? Mula

To: Paul Engel who wrote (104916)	6/26/2000 8:00:00 PM
From: EricRR	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: "To be generous, Itanium 600MHz will be around 600MHz coppermine." Paul: On x86 code - but nobody will buy ITanium for running just x86 code. Remember Paul- X86 code was the topic of this discussion. Why don't you go back and study the Server and Workstation markets before you make further incorrect and simplistic estimate of the ITanium performance. You have yet to answer why this 5 year in the making chip will not be able to beat an on the market Alpha in floating point. And as for servers, I bring you back to a very old question I asked you: Is Intel making a JVM for Itanium? If not, scratch the server side java market (hint: when you go to a web page and it says "www.*.com//.JSP") And what of performance in the other scripting server market? ("www..com//*.ASP") Intel doesn't get it: the point of fast processors is to make it easy to write software, not to make it hard! If server performance was such a big deal, dot com's would write all their software in C++. Do you understand why they use ASP and JSP, and PERL instead? And as for workstation users who happen to be lucky enough not to care about x86 software, there is a clear winner: the Alpha!

To: Paul Engel who wrote (104916)	6/26/2000 9:37:00 PM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Re: Any idea how fast a 733 MHz ITaninum will do an on-the-fly Secure Sockets Layer encoding/decoding functions for 128/256 bit secvurity levels? Too bad everyone has decided to use $29 DSP processors on the NIC to do this instead of $4,000 boondoggle CPUs. :-) nwfusion.com Under the ARM arrangement, 3Com will develop NICs that will be able to offload TCP processing from host computers. The ARM chip on the NICs will segment the packets, while another on-board chip from VLSI Technology will add IP Security encryption to the packets. The ARM and VLSI chips will allow host computers to dedicate more CPU power to application processing. ARM has a similar arrangement with 3Com rival Intel. One reason 3Com partnered with ARM was to add intelligence to 3Com NICs in order to make them more attractive than Intel NIC technology embedded into PC motherboards, says Esmeralda Silva, LAN analyst at International Data Corp. in Framingham, Mass.